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Religion is Bullsh*t, Get over it, and support science.

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Kyle?, Aug 18, 2011.

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Are Gods Real?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. I've seen Led Zep live, therefore, God's do exist.

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  1. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    yes i will, not sure how to do the whole quoty things. apologies

    I am not saying matter doesnt/cant have these properties. what i am saying if you like is that this is where most arguments fall apart
    god (again i emphasis not the bearded guy with robes) is seen as impossible as there is no 'creator' of god
    yet everything we know exists without a 'creator'? is that plausible

    you admit you dont know what created matter, and it is eternal
    yet the same argument over god is unacceptable?

    Is this because of what we 'assume' god is? because i have never said what he is
     
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  2. Kyle?

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    The blast from the big bang created life, as it smashed certain particles of energy together, and formed A) a new planet B) a bacterium, which over time split, and evolved to meet it's new circumstances.
     
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  3. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Yes I know. The quran, written 1400 years ago, explains this

    science started to catch up and acknowledge eventually
     
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  4. Kyle?

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    The qu'ran is an evil book of lies that makes desperate men blow themselves, and other innocent people, up, all for the lies told by some fake ****ing prophet.
     
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  5. Erik

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    Why do I need to? YOU are making an assertion that ALL THINGS are created, including the Solar System, Earth, etc, and I want to know why.
     
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  6. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    no hatred there then

    good response <ok>

    you obviously know what your talking about

    debate is futile

    oh

    and

    grow the fook up
     
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  7. Kyle?

    Kyle? New Member

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    Look, i'm really pissed off, (not your fault) and i can't be bothered to debate sensibly.
     
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  8. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    oh that old method

    simple answer

    i cant think of anything that isnt 'created', by a creator

    you obviously disagree, so i was hoping to be 'enlightened'
     
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  9. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    3 simple questions,

    where do we come from
    why are we here
    what next
     
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  10. Erik

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    What do you mean "that old method" you braindead mong? Clearly nothing is CREATED without a CREATOR, my question is why are you asserting that the Universe, the Solar System, Earth, etc are CREATED.
     
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  11. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    kind of answers your own question dont you think?
     
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  12. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>

    Try reading it again darling, and then respond.
     
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  13. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    yup, re read it and the reason i am asserting these things are 'created' is because as you say

    Clearly nothing is CREATED without a CREATOR

    if i have missed something, be sure to clarify <ok>
     
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  14. Erik

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    You are avoiding telling me why the Universe is a "creation" - i.e. A thing that is made (by a creator).

    Such circular reasoning just won't do for me. <ok>

    And again, instead of trying to pick holes in my grammar for a third post, address the point in hand.
     
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  15. PleaseNotPoll

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    No, not at all.

    God isn't seen as impossible, just improbable and unproven.
    There's nothing to suggest a creator, so why assume one?

    If god is the creator, then what created god?
    If he doesn't need a creator, then why does anything else?

    The things that we build are not created, by the way.
    I'm sure that you're aware of this, but it bears repeating anyway.
    If I 'create' a painting, all that I'm doing is changing things from one form into another.
    As far as we know, nothing has ever been literally created.

    You've claimed repeatedly that the Big Bang was mentioned in the Quran.
    Could you quote the passage or passages for me, please?
     
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  16. Kyle?

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    It's in amongst the bit about supporting terrorists and killing innocent civillians. It truly is a corking read.
     
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  17. thefanwithnoname

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    pick holes in your grammar??? are you high?

    i am not avoiding anything, i agree with you, nothing is created without a creator. this includes the earth, us, etc etc
     
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  18. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    i thought you said your iq was 127?

    are you sure it wasnt 1.27?

    joker tore you a new one so now you going around , apparently 'mad', talking bubbles

    grow up
     
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  19. Donkey Toon

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    3 simple questions,

    where do we come from - We have evolved from simpler life forms through evolution, but you already knew that. Why do some humans insist on believing that the key to the existence of everything else in the universe revolves around humans?
    why are we here - Does there have to be a reason? Anybody's theory on this is as good as anybody else's because all theories on this subject are pure speculation.
    what next - Nobody knows. Nobody!!! Why do some people invent an answer and then try and force it on those around them?

    For me all humans fit into two categories. Those who can cope with not knowing the above answers and can cope with the realisation that the realities connected to them might not be as nice and comfortable as we would like and those who cannot.

    Those who cannot invent a religion or join an existing one. They then spend the rest of their lives lying to themselves and everybody else in an effort to justify their stance.

    That is fine by me btw. If that is what gets you through life without becoming a nervous wreck then all power to your elbow. But don't force it on others, don't expect others to have to change their lives to accommodate you and don't try to tell me that deep down you don't know that you are kidding yourselves by using a comfort blanket in the guise of religion.
     
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  20. Kyle?

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    It's not just that. Everything is going badly today. I just want to kill everyone i meet. By tomorrow i'll be back to my normal self, where i can look at both sides of the coin. Just ignore my current posts.
     
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