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Religion is Bullsh*t, Get over it, and support science.

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Kyle?, Aug 18, 2011.

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Are Gods Real?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. I've seen Led Zep live, therefore, God's do exist.

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  1. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    Because you act very arrogant towards anyone who disgrees with them. Calling me a ****ing moron for example.
     
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  2. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    You better hope there isn't a God, heaven and hell 'cause we all know where you're going to end up.

    Hot, pokey, pokey bum time!
     
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  3. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    No you've got me there, I hold my hands up, there are aspects of relgion/belief that I don't understand and cannot explain.
     
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  4. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    She'd probably like that, the kinky bitch.
     
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  5. Erik

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    You made a quote about taking an interest in Meteorology (the study of the atmosphere, climate and weather), so I altered it to make it look like they are always wrong. Y'know, because predictions about the weather are always wrong! I haven't a clue what you mean by "arrogant towards anyone who disagrees with them" either.
     
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  6. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    Ok sorry I misunderstood there.

    I have Aspergers so bare with me <laugh>
     
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  7. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    300 years and the quote is still relevant

    The 'vague' scriptures you speak about are very specific. The knowledge of the embryo and the 2 water currents meeting but not mixing is succinct and to the point.

    So the greeks 'knew' but modern science only just found out? kind of destroys modern science doesnt it?

    vague??? 'and the sun and the moon: all (of them) swim in an orbit.'. to you this is vague?

    marshy spring? you mean surah 18 verse 85-86 I assume? 'Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people.'

    why are you struggling with this? unless of course you are being literal? have you never seen the sun setting into the sea?
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    A test that a lot of people don't know that they're taking, where they haven't learned the subject and where failure results in eternal torture?
    Is that just?

    So why would it be a bad thing if we were all just in heaven?
     
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  9. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    Well there just wouldn't be any point in life really.
     
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  10. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand the concept of Original Sin, and how it can be reconciled with the Theory of Evolution.
     
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  11. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    why are you fascinated with zakir naik? I have addressed this before.

    The big bang theory is explained in surah anbiya

    not only that but the quran is the only religious text that mentions the expansion of the universe
    so it wasnt edwin hubble who discovered this, it was told 1400 years ago
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    300 years and he'd probably have a very different view of it if he were alive today.

    The water currents part shows no extraordinary knowledge and the embryonic development passage suggests that man is made from an extract of clay.

    The Greeks knew and it's been known for a long time.
    Doesn't conflict with science at all.

    Referring to two objects and then saying "all of them" is vague.
    A lot of Islamic scholars take this to mean every celestial body, when it isn't strictly indicated.

    As I said before, where any theistic text is proved to be wrong, it becomes a metaphor.
    The 'as if' part of the translation has been added.
    It's meant to be literal.
     
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  13. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    And what is the point of life?
    To get into heaven?
    Why not just start there?
     
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  14. Depay Sound

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    Maybe because you have to earn your place in Heaven? I don't know.
     
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  15. Kyle?

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    If it turns out that i've been wrong all this time, and there is an afterlife, i'd much rather go to hell.
     
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  16. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I mention Zakir Naik as you keep referring to things that he regularly talks about.
    You're basically quoting his arguments without referring to him.

    The big bang theory isn't explained.
    Sorry.
    Quote the passage and people will see what I mean.

    Only the English language versions of the Quran use the translation of Surah 51:47 to say that the universe is expanding and only recent ones, at that.
    It was always translated as meaning large or vast in the past, but now that this knowledge has been found, it's become 'expanding'.
    How convenient.
    Another of Naik's arguments, by the way.
     
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  17. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    So why would a supposedly just, gracious and forgiving god not tell people that this life was a test?
    Why would he leave any doubt in anyone's mind, especially when we are talking about an infinite punishment for a finite crime?
     
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  18. Depay Sound

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    <laugh>
     
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  19. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    God supposedly sent his Son (Jesus Christ) to spread the Word of God. Also, God is believed to have appeared to people in the past, some of whom were atheists but were then converted upon seeing God (or one of his "representatives"). God is also believed to have had prophets on earth who were spreading the Word of God (and false prophets like that prick in America who's name I can't even be bothered to look up).
     
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  20. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Even more proof of the injustice of the god of the bible, if he were to exist.
    He sent an innocent to die for the supposed crimes of the guilty and revealed himself to some people and not others.
     
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