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Off Topic Refused 'container cafe' planning application...

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Feb 4, 2016.

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Would you have approved planning for the container cafe?

Poll closed Feb 5, 2016.
  1. Yes

    95.1%
  2. No

    4.9%
  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    <laugh> Mr Paranoid's back.

    This was no dig at the Council, I understand their thinking behind the refusal, I just wondered what people thought of an idea like this.
     
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  2. DMD

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    I'm not paranoid, and haven't been away. Neither of which alters what I put anyway.
     
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  3. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    How dare people criticise anything in Hull!
    Are you suggesting that everyone critical of Hull's council's incompetence down the years doesn't live in Hull.
    Meanwhile, feel free to start any threads you wish to about EYRC **** ups.
     
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  4. DMD

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    **** me, you were quicker than I expected, but I could have written that very predictable and dull pile of bollocks for you.
     
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  5. Barchullona

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    It was an appropriate reply to the very predictable and dull pile of bollocks in your post.
     
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  6. Barchullona

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    I lived in Leeds in the late 1960s and left there to start work on Hull in 1970. In those days they used to come from Leeds to Hull for a night out as itbwas better.

    When I left this area was surrounded by slums, boarded up houses and abandoned businesses and warehouses.

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    Now it looks like this.
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    The whole area behind the station was a wasteland now it is full of buildings like these, site of The Armories, one of the best museums in the country, bars, restaurants all open until very late.
    Politics doesn't come into it, this was all done under a Labour Council. It was just that theirs had some idea of business and the modern world unlike the dinosaurs people keep voting for in Hull.
     
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  7. bum_chinned_crab

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    Great pics, thanks. I've lived in Leeds for 16 years and the change even in that time is just unbelievable. It all started from renovating Victoria Quarter and Harvey Nicholls' arrival but the way they've not let momentum die and it has snowballed since is impressive, whoever is behind it. The choice and quality of places to eat and drink is fantastic, and it'll only get better.

    Ive eaten at The Man Behind The Curtain twice since it opened and since its reputation has spread after he got one star last year you now cant get a weekend evening booking in 2016. Not one single weekend sitting available. Imagine that in Hull, every single dining slot booked up for an entire year. Surely that kind of demand can only mean more high class eateries will move to the city. Thankfully I got in early before word of mouth spread.
     
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    My lad's mate had a place near the Armories. I remember asking him what the clubs were like. Turns out they never went in one. You could eat until late (not everywhere stopping st 9pm) and go into good bars until the early hours. His building had a place on the ground floor which opened at 6am serving breakfasts and with an early opening bar. A bar selling nothing but dozens of types of vodka -imagine that in Hull.
    It is depressing to see how much Leeds has changed but in the meantime Hull hasn't. Coming out of the two stations in 1970 and now andvthe surrounding area in Leeds is virtually unrecognisable but in Hull has hardly changed in comparison.
     
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    Whitelocks still a good place? I have a photo of my grandpa sat outside there as they delivered the beer by horse drawn dray and outside there is nothing surrounding it. Inside it is virtually unaltered.
     
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    I havent been in a club in about 10 years, most of the bars stay open until 6am and when they shut somewhere else opens for the day :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Can the EYRC annex Hull instead of the other way round? It isn't a partisan politics issue; our council is just full of tossers stuck in the 1970s. And criticising our council isn't synonymous with having a snide dig at Hull.
     
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    Yep, still going strong. More of an afternoon / early evening place for me but it's still there. They've just refurbed the top floor and put in a craft beer bar:
    http://leeds-list.com/food-and-drink/new-to-leeds-the-turks-head/

    Actually, this says a lot - Leeds List updates with something new every single day. It's the only way to keep up with new places to eat and drink.
     
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    I think the bar you're referring to with the dozen types of vodka is called Revolution. There's one in Lincoln and there used to be one in Hull but it closed in 2013 I think. They do amazing food and cocktails as well.
     
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    Neon Cactus on Call Lane sells 300 different types of tequila.
     
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    Obviously the City of ultra money is small scale compared to the external money pumped into Leeds. In turn that got private industry interested.

    If it continues, and local investors come forward here, then maybe the two regimes can be compared.
     
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    I was speaking to someone last month about putting up a complete container shopping centre into Hull. It needed good existing footfall and 5 years of availability. Glad no real time was spent on it after this.
     
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    Is that the one in shoreditch?
     
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  18. Barchullona

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    A difference in attitudes in Leeds. Labour councils there have been business savvy whilst in Hull they seem to put obstacles in the way.
    I remember in the 1960s an uncle of mine, a businessman, who had connections with members of the Leeds board, used to be one of the lucky few who went to European matches. He often went on the team plane, and it wasn't cheap often the few on that plane were the only ones there or maybe a few who went off their own bat, but that was difficult to Eastern Europe then. He said that invariably someone from Leeds council would go to promote Leeds. It worked as due to their presence a lot of enquiries about opportunities arose. I couldn't imagine, given the lack of making anything of Hull having the only PL club in Yorkshire, that HCC would do the same. Especially given our portfolio holder for sport and culture, the inestimable Mr Geraghty, stating after the City Of Culture award that "Hull is a sporting city. Not only do we like our rugby league but rugby league and darts as well".
    Compare Leeds on New Year's Eve. Big party in Leeds centre with bands on, midnight firework display. In Hull no party and fireworks early on as the police and council don't want people out and about late.
    Talking of the container, compare the way they have used the waterfront in Liverpool, Bristol, Plymouth, Newcastle.
    The police got a lot of the bars shut in Hull and wanted those around the Marina and centre shutting on Bank Holidays to discourage drinking. This ended up with crowds for the start of the round the world yacht race and powerboat events milling about and complaining of the lack of places to eat and drink.
    The boat they wanted for a nightclub was scuppered by restrictions on numbers and a ridiculous closing time (10pm for a nightclub?). It went to Bristol where it was successful.
    I was in Plymouth last year. I went to the sea life centre there, which in a lot of ways I preferred to The Deep, and where the catering was far superior. Near it were eating and drinking places which on a Sunday lunchtime were heaving (and a lot of them weren't cheap). Parts of Plymouth remind me of near to Hull centre in their haphazard nature, empty spaces and roads cutting by marooned little islands of shops, probably a result of the Abercrombie plan they took over after the war. But the waterfront setting is far superior to Hull's.
     
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  19. Edelman

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    Im from Hull,almost always voted for labour but find this refusal puzzling.
    To many old stuck in the mud backward thinking people in there.
    For gods sake its a modular building of sorts it can be removed if it becomes unsitely
    Burger van outside Binns anyone
     
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  20. Barchullona

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    Probably. Was about 15 years ago. The dad of my lad's mate had a bright idea. Instead of him going into halls of residence of renting a flat he got a mortgage and bought an apartment overlooking the canal.for him to use. (Something not a lot could do but he had no mortgage himself and a good job). When his lad left uni he made a fantastic profit on it.
     
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