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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Jan 15, 2012.

  1. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    They're not mistakes, I deliberately chose decisions that can not be construed as mistakes. The ref cannot change his mind because a player complains so Rooney's reaction is not immaterial and shows bias. It's not a mistake when a ref ignores the rules it's bias, unless you're going to suggest he pulled out the wrong card or forgot the rules.
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    How did Clattenburg benefit from making himself look like a total clown, Lidls?
    He ****ed up on the pitch and then compounded his mistake by making a totally indefensible post-match decision.
    How he wasn't dropped after that is beyond me, frankly.

    Why would he show pro-United bias?
    So that he gets to keep reffing your games and doesn't get called fat or blind by Ferguson, probably.
     
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  3. NSIS

    NSIS Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, entirely disagree. Nobody is more willing to act like he's been shot than Nani. Yet, he uttered not a word of protest. If Rooney hadn't intervened, waving imaginary cards, etc; then the likelihood is that no action would have been taken. There is a mistaken belief that there is an official ruling stating that two footed tackles are an automatic red card - there is no such ruling. In my view, Kompany's tackle was a good one - neither reckless, nor dangerous.
     
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  4. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Failing to acknowledge a clear mistake is not a positive thing, Lidls.
    That clearly doesn't help him and claiming that he made the right decision makes it worse.
    Nobody would agree with what he did, so he wouldn't have helped himself with the assessors.

    Rooney clearly did influence the ref, as he didn't even blow for a foul til Shrek got in his face.
    Reminded me of this:

    [video=youtube;RfHjqDOuflM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfHjqDOuflM[/video]

    Oh, look who it is.
    Mr Unbiased himself.
    "What's that, Stevie? You think that it should be a red? Oh, ok. Right you are."
     
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  5. NSIS

    NSIS Well-Known Member

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    Of course the decision was upheld. There was little other choice. As I pointed out, under the current ruling, these are decisions made entirely at the referee's discretion. Unless the decision was blatantly incorrect, there's no way it was going to be overturned. That still doesn't alter my view that the decision was the wrong one.
     
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  6. Ghoddle10

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    As I keep saying UEFA have shown the way forward by bringing in goal line assistants. I'm confident we'd be on top of the lge now, had the Prem adopted such a system.
     
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  7. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Because he doesn't even go for his whistle at first. He goes from not a foul to a straight red when Rooney runs up to him.
     
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  8. NSIS

    NSIS Well-Known Member

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    If you try taking your red tinted glasses off for a minute, Luke. You might be able to see what everybody else can see!
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Just because he came to the correct conclusion, that doesn't mean that his methods for getting there were correct.
    Being openly and obviously influenced by player pressure is clearly not a good thing, is it?
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    In my view, it was the wrong decision. However, you're spot on. The decision, right or wrong, should be the referees alone, not made under the influence of others.
     
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    Once again, Luke, two footed tackles are not illegal. Not under current Fifa laws, anyway.
     
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  13. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Of course he has. I'm not saying Fergie went in with a brown envelope before the game or that the ref even intended to give Man Utd the decisions but he listened to Rooney and waved away the City players protest. It's biased in black and white, just as the Barton decision was.
     
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  14. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Agreed. Luke really should try viewing life without his red tinted specs.
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The obvious point that he's missed is the Newcastle game at Old Trafford.
    The one time that a visiting team has been incorrectly rewarded there in Premier League history and Man Utd fail to win.
    We had twice as many goal decisions go against us and still didn't lose.
     
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  17. BringBackfootie

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    Seems like you are not seeing the decisions that go your way, there are enough of them.

    Don't get me wrong, moaning about ref's decisions is part of the fun, I do it often enough but please do not go about as if Spurs only get wrong decisions against them and none for, thats silly, if you didn't get the wrong ones but got the right ones you would still not be 1st so, don't be saying we could this or that as it works the reverse when you get away with stuff too
     
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    United v Newcastle was 1 - 1 when Newcastle got a dodgy pen <doh>
     
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  19. BringBackfootie

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    Would have been if it was 1 yard close to Nani, absolutely no risk to Nani whatsoever, never a red in a million years, two footed end of, that's no argument.
     
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  20. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Which is exactly my point.
    Man Utd didn't get past the ref blunder and get on with it, did they?
     
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