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Rangers v Celtic

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ciaran, Sep 5, 2016.

  1. Toley Fart

    Toley Fart not606's best fighter

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    Mindy getting dry ridden here
     
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  2. Mind The Duck

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    They did help Rangers. But due to Rangers own performances the games racked up. So they helped them again.

    Why should the FA help teams in Europe but not teams grieving from a sudden death?

    How do you find yourself only defending 1 decision?
     
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  3. monacoger

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    Grieving = a huge injury list
     
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  4. If in doubt

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    I'm going to leave this here as you genuinely think that Celtic were grieving and not going through an injury crisis so shamelessly used a poor man's death as a get out clause. Unless of course you think that Phil O'Donnell was more worthy of Celtic's grief than say Billy McNeill?

    Like playing chess with a pigeon.
     
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  5. A.L.D.O 4.1

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    Rangers agreed to it <laugh>

    Celtic asked for a postponement and the SPL refused. They then consulted Rangers and Walter Smith in particular who said if Celtic felt they needed to postpone the game then so be it.

    Walter being the Gentleman that he is and Rangers FC being the last bastion of dignity left in Scottish football were never going to do anything else.

    That's not the point though is it?

    The very same season and with Rangers struggling with an impossible fixture schedule due to remarkable success in the Europa league a league extension was asked for. The old sporting integrity pish was wheeled out and then...another ex Celtic player died.

    Not just any old ex Celtic player but a club legend A man who had gave most of his life to the club as a player, coach, manager and ambassador. An actual Celtic legend.

    How many games were postponed for that guy?

    None, nadda, nowt.

    #clublikenoother
     
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  6. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    O'Donnell was a young man, his death was a shock to all the Celtic Family.
     
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  7. If in doubt

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    Bullshit. I also know you're smart enough to not believe that.
     
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  8. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Celtic FC's capitalization of his death was a shock to no one however.
     
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  9. Mind The Duck

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    Its not just about Celtic, as i already mentioned.

    Billy McNeill was not a sudden unexpected death.

    Phil O'Donnell died infront of his friends at a young age during a game.

    I think you should leave it here seeing as you are supporting postponement due to fatigue over that of the death of a young father.
     
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  10. monacoger

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    <laugh>


    I like Ciaran
     
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  11. Toley Fart

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    Phil > Tommy
     
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    Nope
     
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  13. DevAdvocate

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    Poor Rangers only got one extension to the season <wah>

    Rangers petitioned the SPL, aiming to have their match with Gretna put back until a later date.
    QUOTE (BBC)3rd Dec: “And, with Gretna giving backing to the request, the decision to postpone was taken by SPL chairman Lex Gold and secretary Iain Blair".

    The SPL pointed out that the French authorities had allowed Lyon a similar weekend off, cancelling their tie at Caen.”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/7122365.stm


    However, it came to light that Lyon hadn't had their game postponed at all. In fact, they applied for the cancellation AFTER hearing Rangers had bought themselves a free week.
    QUOTE (BBC)
    6th Dec: Lyon have failed to have Saturday's league game against Caen postponed to give them time to prepare for the Champions League clash with Rangers.

    "We requested the postponement in order to be at the same level as our rivals who succeeded in postponing their Scottish league game against Gretna," he said.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/7131441.stm


    Further questions should have been asked about the subsequent scheduling of both this Gretna match, and the St. Mirren match postponed prior to Scotland's Euro Qualifier against Italy. Why weren't these matches played at the first available opportunity? Rangers had free midweeks pre-Christmas - Celtic managed to play their home match against Falkirk in between their Champions League and SPL fixtures. Indeed, Celtic were able to play FOUR matches in ten days at the start of December, dropping four points in the process (Hearts and St Mirren).
     
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    Rangers argue that their exertions in Europe are worthy of greater support from the SPL. The key point, though, is that it is not the SPL's role to assist one club to the cost of others. If Rangers had their way, and the season continued until May 27, other sides would be affected; not least the players and fans of Motherwell, Dundee United and Hibernian, which are in the running for a Uefa Cup spot.

    Rangers should be careful not to operate with a smoke and mirrors policy. It was their inability to beat Hibernian and, more notably, Partick Thistle in Scottish Cup ties at the first time of asking that prompted replays. It is fortunate for Walter Smith and his players that the SFA changed the rules and abolished Scottish Cup semi-final replays, otherwise Sunday's draw with St Johnstone would have intensified the headache.

    And then there was Rangers' decision to ask, and be granted, a postponement for a match against Gretna in December, the weekend before a Champions League game against Lyon. It was a crazy decision at the time, and subsequently took up another midweek in January. It has been left to Barry Ferguson, the Rangers captain, to talk sense. "I won't moan," said the midfielder of the late-season congestion.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/apr/25/rangers.celtic
     
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    Ah you ruined it by telling the true story.<whistle>
     
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    Always :laugh:
     
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    Rangers have denied the club have been deliberately obstructive by refusing to postpone their Premier League match against Hearts on Sunday. The Tynecastle club return back to Scotland late on Friday afternoon after their Uefa Cup first round game against Stuttgart.

    Hearts had asked the Ibrox club to put back the game, but Rangers turned down their request after consultation with manager Dick Advocaat. But in a similar situation last October the Edinburgh outfit agreed to switch a fixture between the two clubs to help Rangers' Champions League campaign.
     
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  19. A.L.D.O 4.1

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    Quick quick show us where Celtic asked for a game to be postponed when Celtic legend Tommy Burns died!

    Otherwise all your Google bashing and cherry picking newspaper editorials is beside the point and all for nought.

    Another two hours of your life trawling the internet you will never get back. So well done you.

    <laugh>
     
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    last two SPL matches if Rangers qualify; be prepared for a deafening silence from Parkhead if Fiorentina knock Rangers out the Cup on Thursday and the Light Blues have to shoehorn their remaining matches into a three-week spell.

    The peculiar thing about this set of events is that nobody is to blame, and especially not the league. In a season that has thrown up an unforeseen set of circumstances - the death of Phil O'Donnell and incredibly bad weather have contributed to postponements - planning has been almost impossible. By issuing alternative schedules, the SPL is at least allowing supporters and Setanta - the broadcaster whose money is vital to the league's survival and which has been severely inconvenienced since the turn of the year - an element of advance thought.

    The SPL has been castigated for allowing Gretna to groundshare on what has turned into a dreadful, and frequently unplayable, pitch at Motherwell's Fir Park. Some 12 months ago, if the league had denied Gretna promotion on the basis that the situation appeared unworkable, what would the fall-out have been?

    The bit Defective Dev ignored.

    "Its not the SPLs role to assist one club to the cost of others"

    Yet they did just that by allowing Gretna to ground share with Motherwell.

    Looks like the author of that ****e Dev posted didn't think it through.

    <laugh>
     
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