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"Rangers till I die"

Discussion in 'Celtic' started by DevAdvocate, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    It sounds awfully fatalistic too and not a little depressing.

    Football is a celebration of life, not death.
     
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  2. RebelBhoy

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    "Rangers till July"

    I think that is witty.
     
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  3. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    it's that song you blast out at the end of an old firm defeat. always gets an ironic cheer from our end <ok>
     
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  4. rogueleader

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    Not stolen it was merely being rested in an alternative client account <laugh>


    ....I was recently reading about whyte and the arsenal shares.....seems they were yet another thing not declared on the huns books until fairly recently
     
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  5. Trypsin-1

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    Dev, most clubs sing it, is a common chant, we actually sing the exact same song given the rangers bit an all

    that's what pisses me off, why does our nickname (which is our only nickname which is 2 syllables <grr>) have to be the same as some other ****ey clubs name up in scotchland <grr>
     
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  6. AP: Password Mong

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    When you think about it, your full name is a composite of two ****ey clubs up in scotchland <ok>
     
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  7. Bib Fortuna's Maw

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    St Mirren and Killie are two teams I can think of that sing it.

    The tune is from 80s God-awful "comedy" Only When I Laugh.

    It's a ****er, right enough <laugh>

    In the next (last?) Old Firm game at Parkhead, I reckon "Rangers 'til July" will get an extremely extended airing<ok>
     
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  8. Moses

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    The song has its roots in a daft old Sunday school song which some think dates back to Victorian times.

    I am H–A–P–P–Y
    I am H–A–P–P–Y
    I am H–A–P–P–Y
    I know I am, I’m sure I am,
    I am H–A–P–P–Y.
    I am L–O–V–E–D,
    I am L–O–V–E–D,
    I know I am, I’m sure I am,
    I am L–O–V–E–D.
    I am S–A–V–E–D,
    I am S–A–V–E–D,
    I know I am, I’m sure I am,
    I am S–A–V–E–D.
    I am happy, loved and saved,
    I am happy, loved and saved,
    Make Jesus king and then we’ll sing,
    I am happy, loved and saved.

    It was also used as a theme tune for an abysmal hospital sitcom starring James Bolam in the 80’s.

    It’s just another daft song sung at football games Dev. You could go through any ridiculous song and pick holes in it.

    Like “it’s a grand old team to play for it’s a grand old team…” I mean this is utterly subjective was it a grand old team to play for at half time in 1971 when Partick Thistle were four nil up at half time in the league cup final? Was it a grand old team to play for when Smith was winning nine in a row?
    “and if you know our history,” a History teacher I know tells me about the decline in people taking History in schools and the fact that the new curriculum for excellence is actually squeezing it out of existence as a subject. Will that not mean no one will know your history and all the arguments about Rangers losing their “history” will become irrelevant?

    “When you walk through a storm Hold your head up high And don't be afraid of the dark”, I mean what if the storm takes place during the daytime? Is it a metaphorical storm or an actual one? What if Willie Collum officiates your games is there, “hope in your hearts”

    This is how tedious life gets when yer pedantic! :smiley:
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    I'm proud to be a pedant, although i'll be honest and admit that this thread was written with my tongue firmly in cheek and i've not had the defensive argumenst which I had hoped for.

    <whistle>

    Anyway, i'm an old fart and I still think it's a daft expression of support.
     
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  10. Moses

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    I would say that's the case with the vast majority of football songs at all clubs. They generally state the bloody obvious.

    In order to get the defensive response you need to take the more provocative approach of say Harry or Hoopy and say that you'll be happy when we friggin die and that you'll stand over our grave to make sure that we're dead (to quote Dylan) :smiley:
     
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  11. Psychosomatic

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    Depends how you read it. These might be two entirely unrelated pieces of friendly advice. Conversationally, then, they might be rendered as follows:

    “When you walk through a storm hold your head up high, yeah?”

    “Oh, and don’t be afraid of the dark.”

    Cheers bud. Means a lot.

    In other words, the darkness mentioned in the song does not necessarily refer back to the storm. If the storm is electrical, of course, then urging someone to hold their head up high - as opposed to wearing a rubber hat and boots, say – might fall foul of health and safety.

    It’s as well to be clear about such things, though, as the people who say stuff like “Rangers till I die” will probably also be the kind of people who take things very, very literally. We may only hope they never pick up a copy of the Old Testament.

    Imagine.

    Oh, I can make things a lot more tedious than that. Although all right-thinking pedants wouldn't necessarily see such things as being tedious, come to think of it, they would see them as being utterly vital. Pedantry is a gift from on high. (Unless I'm on the receiving end of it, of course, when it merely becomes petty.)
     
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  12. rogueleader

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    its not really feasible to hold your head up too high in a storm when you are wearing something with a hood, kind of defeats the purpose.
     
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  13. Go G YellowScreen

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    I think the storm's a metaphor but I could be wrong :emoticon-0157-sun:
     
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  14. Moses

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    I quote Dylan and I get a response from Tom Petty :smiley:
     
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  15. DevAdvocate

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    Why are West Ham fans "Forever Blowing Bubbles"? That's even stupider.
     
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  16. Psychosomatic

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    A valid intervention.

    If someone has taken the time to offer some friendly advice, however - "when you walk through a storm hold your head up high" - it would be rather rude to simply ignore it completely.

    If burdened by a hood or similar protective (and sensible) clothing, then, those of us finding ourselves walking through a storm might still occasionally glance upwards to satisfy honour and reciprocate a sense of goodwill.

    Or, the lyrics of the song may need to be slightly modified.



    Stop being so pedantic.

    Stop being so indecisive.
     
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  17. Psychosomatic

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    Not if you're Bubbles. Lucky guy.
     
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  18. DevAdvocate

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    Michael Jackson's Chimpanzee was called Bubbles if I remember correctly, and there was a joke doing the rounds at the time, I am of course not going to indulge in mocking the dead *****phile aka the King of Pop.
     
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  19. Psychosomatic

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    True. But you'll notice that the song urges us, in effect, to do nothing, to go out there with no protection whatsoever. I'm starting to doubt the motives of the guy behind the advice. Why would anyone but an enemy want us out there in a storm unprotected?

    If anyone allows this song to entirely guide their outlook and lives, they've probably made a terrible mistake. That's the only conclusion I can come to.
     
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  20. Psychosomatic

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    Michael Jackson's dead?

    But why wasn't it on the news? They should have cleared the schedules and neglected to report on world affairs as they filled our heads with the minutiae of his demise.

    I feel cheated.
     
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