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  1. Danger Fox

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    I too really should know better than to get drawn in - However, here goes. The problem lies not so much what was said, but the intent with which it was said and it is very clear that the "stan" comments implication was to infer insult and that is where the insult lies
     
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  2. TayLorTiGer

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    I don't hate any particular nation regardless what their ancestors did, if you met a German person, you could have loads in common and you could be the best of mates, but just because he was German you suddenly have a direct hatred towards him, it's stupid and people that go around saying 'I hate Krauts, I hate Poles, I hate Italians', because it shows how uneducated they are
     
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  3. DMD

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    Why? Are you claiming the Queen's not English? A very slippery slope of an argument that one.
     
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  4. Hull City Wok Tiger

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    Of course they are English, with a large dollop of German chucked in
     
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  5. TayLorTiGer

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    I think he was implying she has German ancestors, meaning that people who have a stubborn hatred towards Germans, also must hate the Queen
     
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  6. petersaxton

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    The English didn't pop out of the ground. Didn't they come from Africa originally?
     
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  7. Hull City Wok Tiger

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    There was a similar thread on here the other day with somebody ranting about 'gays', just blind prejudice and lack of education like you say, but this will never change because it's human nature not to like what you don't understand.
     
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  8. DMD

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    A very, very weak argument. "Someone's trying to offend me, so I'll be offended even though it's a compliment". That's a nonsense.
     
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  9. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    Danger Fox:

    View attachment 14593
     
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  10. Hull City Wok Tiger

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    They did change their name from the Germanic original to Windsor during the war so obviously they recognised that too, some people have blind hatred for no reason other than prejudice
     
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  11. Danger Fox

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    Do you actually believe this <yikes>
     
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  12. DMD

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    As much as anyone did. In which case if that argument stands, there can, by definition be no racism.

    The bulk of people on these islands can have there genealogy traced back to the original settlers left here when the ice receded. Arguably through these settlers, we share our genes with the Basques.

    The subsequent waves of immigration from the Romans etc have had little impact on genealogy.
     
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  13. petersaxton

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    I agree with you. If somebody insults me but his argument doesn't stand up to logical analysis I just laugh about it.
     
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  14. TayLorTiGer

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    No one knows where humans first originated from, that's why people think religion has more evidence than science itself, tbh I don't think we'll ever know how we all got here
     
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  15. petersaxton

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    I suppose the argument would be that the reasons for racism were the events that happened later. I can understand not liking what somebody is doing now but they shouldn't be disliked for what their parents did.
     
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    We're all made from stardust.
     
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  17. Hull City Wok Tiger

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    I thought we all originated from Africa but saying this usually brings down a ****-storm of hatred and abuse on forums so best not to mention it!
     
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  18. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    Er.....

    Genetic evidence

    The mid-20th-century discovery that the Basques have an unusually high percentage of blood type O Rh-negative seemed to support the supposition that they were distinctly different from other Europeans.[10] This made them a popular subject for genetic studies.[11]
    Studies of Mitochondrial DNA and Y-Chromosome DNA however have drawn conflicting conclusions. Gonzales and colleagues argued that the presence of a rare subgroup of haplogroup U8 places the ancestry of the Basques in the Upper Palaeolithic.[12] However the Basques are similar to neighboring populations in their distribution of Y-DNA haplogroups.[13]
    Since some authors have proposed a Basque origin in the Caucasus or North Africa on linguistic grounds, Kristin L. Young and colleagues compared autosomal short tandem repeat (STR) data from Basque individuals living in 27 mountain villages in the provinces of Alava, Vizcaya, Guipuzcoa, and Navarre, with that of neighboring populations in Europe, as well as proposed ancestral populations in North Africa and the Caucasus. They concluded that there was no support from autosomal STR analysis for the hypotheses of a recent common ancestor between the Basques and populations either from the Caucasus or North Africa.[14]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Basques#Genetic_evidence
     
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  19. TayLorTiGer

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    That theory is the most logical, that we originated from African Apes, but that theory contradicts itself, if we evolved from Apes, then why do we have tailbones? Surely the most logical answer is that we evolved from monkeys, but science has proved that our DNA is more accurate towards Apes than monkeys, so I guess we'll never know
     
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  20. DMD

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    I could call and raise your wiki quote with citations from other more credible sources, but I'll just stick to pointing out the "arguably" part of my post and settle for it not making one ha'porth of difference to the point I was making. :cheesy:
     
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