Raiders on the move

This may have been discussed previously if so, so what? I tend not to comment or view the Allam threads nowadays as they tend to sway from the simplicities, that being that the Allam's are ****s. All other discussions have been done to death.

Despite all this maybe the EFL, if they are concerned about their reputation & supporter unrest, should take a peek at the ****nuts running our shambles of a club & ask them for comments.

Maybe there should be some supporter unrest, maybe there should be a lot?

"The failure to recognise MK Dons in the correct manner causes reputational issues for the EFL as well as creating the potential for unrest amongst MK Dons supporters and, as such, is of concern for the EFL," the EFL said in a statement.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1BY0U7

 

Not a big fan, but find it entertaining seeing the highlights when they cut out all the down time. On a plus note good to see Mike White of RH getting the reporting gig for 5 Live, did a good job also.

 

Just saw the end of the Giants v Eagles game 1 second to go 24 each and a guy kicks a 61 yard field goal to win.

 

You understand quite well. Alumni are loyal to their colleges. Not only are athletic events memorable social opportunities while in school, but a great source of pride as an alumnus. "Be true to your school," as they say. I still support my own school, Missouri (Ol' Mizzou), even though they have been through some political turmoil and the program has gone into a tailspin.

 

Cheers for that
So before you went to college would you (not you particularly, but people in general) also support the college that happened to be their local one? Or is that what the franchises are for and then people just follow the College / University they attend?
I'm genuinely interested as the College games over there are huge

 

Supporting college teams is like us supporting our local football teams, if you think most states only have 1 NFL team and many have none, then chances are you don't leave close enough to an NFL stadium to regularly make it to games. Hence people attend their local college or even high school games if they want to watch live sport.

Also at college its a bit of a culture thing, a lot of students aren't interested in football as a sport but the college games are big events against rival schools and many just turn out because its the place to be seen and to show 'school spirit' (yes that's actually a thing in the US!).

 

If the fans get behind a team then it won't move.

There's zero chance teams like the Packers, Cowboys, Seahawks, Steelers... etc will ever move from where they are now, they sell out every game.

Its only teams with floating fan bases and poor attendance that get moved, its no coincidence that the teams with recent moves (Rams, Raiders and Chargers) have been consistently the worst attended clubs in the past few years.

 

Not much consolatian to the fans of those teams is it but I guess it's all about the $$$$

 

Exactly, the owners pretty much hold the fans and local government to ransom, if they don't get what they want then they threaten to leave, if the threats don't work then they go. Pretty depressing really.

 

Why wouldn't they be? The owners threatening to move, being incompetent, insisting taxpayers must pay for their stadium when the NFL have billions. San Deigo only had a drop off in the last couple years because of the likelihood of them moving, they've had good support under this owner despite him getting a string of bad coaches and a losing record for the 30 years under their ownership. The Raiders also have had a long term fanbase despite years of turning out trash and joke ownership (Al Davis). The Rams are the floaters, in LA, went to St Louis and now back again. I don't see why there's the assumption that any sports club has a right to have support when there's incompetence at the top. The NFL acts like it's a privilege for a city to have an NFL team, when like any business they should actually be treating their customers like they are the most important thing. The problem in the NFL is that bad owners can keep where they are, to blame it on fans is just wrong and the excuse for badly wrong organisations.

 

The Rams whete getting decent crowds weren't they in St Loius

 

I think of this whenever I see the thread title.

That is my contribution to this thread. Sorry.

 

No, they were pretty much bottom three for attendance and capacity filled, in one of the smaller NFL stadia as well.

 

Spot on, but that's the model for all U.S sports unfortunately. Sometimes the fans don't even factor into it, the Sonic's we're well loved in Seattle but when they were sold to Clay Bennett he moved them to Oklahoma purely because he wanted an NBA team in his hometown.

 

That isn't the entire picture. Owners will often threaten to move when they want a new stadium built, or to get a better deal on the one they have. Sometimes they are serious and other times they are bluffing. When owners threaten to move fans start to stay away, such that if and when the franchise does move they claim attendance problems. San Diego and St. Louis both supported their teams well before their ownership began signalling their intent to screw the fan base.

 

The Rams crowds had dropped off long before talk of relocation, it was only to be expected, after the novelty of having a new team, they had a successful few years and crowds were good, once the novelty wore off and the team started losing they stopped selling out. Who knows, if they started winning again then maybe the fans would have come back but Kroenke had already made up his mind to move them.

 

Seattle "Super" Sonics.

 

Sounds familiar.

 

Of course, its been a long week

 

It's hard to criticize St. Louis for attendance. In 2014, the year previous to the ownership announcing a move, the Rams drew over 57K, and hadn't had a winning season in 11 years. The LA Rams drew less than that for their home opener this ear.