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Racism

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by luvgonzo, Jan 24, 2015.

  1. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Great point Dan.<ok>

    Its a bit of both I'd say mate, the old school elitist trait is clearly prevalent in Cameron's cabinet, its packed with his old Etonian chums.
     
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  2. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Mate I'm not sure how he thinks you can 'quota fill' the posts you stated - head of BBC, Police Commissioner and Head of Cof E?
     
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  3. Tobes

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    It's a lazy conclusion to point at the lack of black faces in certain high profile positions and declare that it's definitive proof of institutional racism.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    But in at least two of jb's examples you have to start at the bottom and work your way through stages to reach the pinnacle, so if you face underhand racism further down the chain you're destined to never reach the top.

    There's also the funny handshake brigade standing in your way.
     
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  5. Tobes

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    My point is not that there's some racism at play, merely that it's stemming from individuals who happen to be in the positions that have influence over recruitment / promotion (at whatever point in the chain) as opposed to being an institutional 'shut out'.

    As I said earlier time will wash out those closet racists, and the issue will resolve itself. How many Afro Caribbean men were applying to the Police force back in the 70's / 80's? Not many would be my guess. Recent years that's changed and there'll be a gradual organic increase in the number who climb the ladder.
     
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    http://www.theguardian.com/culture/...pologises-after-calling-black-actors-coloured

    Benedict Cumberbatch has apologised after referring to black actors as “coloured”during an interview on US television, saying he is “devastated” to have caused offence.

    The Sherlock actor said he was “an idiot” after he used the phrase during a debate, ironically about the diversity problems that black British actors face in the UK compared to the US, which he argued has been more open to casting them.

    Talking on the Tavis Smiley show on PBS, Cumberbatch said: “I think as far as coloured actors go, it gets really different in the UK, and a lot of my friends have had more opportunities here [in America] than in the UK, and that’s something that needs to change.”

    Reaction was mixed after the actor – who has been nominated for an Oscar for his role in The Imitation Game – used the outdated term, with many praising the sentiment of his argument but lamenting his poor choice of words.

    A spokesperson for the anti-racism charity Show Racism the Red Card, told the Independent: “Benedict Cumberbatch has highlighted a very important issue within the entertainment industry and within society. In doing so, he has also inadvertently highlighted the issue of appropriate terminology and the evolution of language.”

    They added that the organisation feels the term “has the potential to cause offence due to the connotations associated with the term and its historical usage”.

    In a statement Cumberbatch said: “I’m devastated to have caused offence by using this outmoded terminology. I offer my sincere apologies. I make no excuse for my being an idiot and know the damage is done.”
     
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    The worlds gone mad imo, people need to get a grip.
     
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  8. You expect comedians to be controversial though. Who takes what they say seriously? Whoever does seriously need to get a life lol
     
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  9. I think the fact that someone notices it and points it out is a racist act. It's suggesting there is a 'us vs them' type mentality <doh>
     
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  10. Couldn't agree more. What happened to freedom...?
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Nobody takes them seriously, you can only ever take offence....never give it
     
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    Its only ever one way too like If I called someone a black **** Id be lambasted for It but anyone ever seen a black guy get stick for calling us white ****?

    Nope? surely that's because black people don't call us that do they lol<doh>
     
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  13. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    The laws relating to hate crime/racism would see the person who called you a "white ****" charged with the offence if you could prove it was said and was meant to cause offence.

    Personally I prefer to call you a blue ****, it has a much better ring to it.:biggrin:
     
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    You can't give offence but you can cause it. Boyle making fun of specifically named people is likely to cause offence to their families and he knows that.
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    I am called a white honkey by our mainly minority workforce due to being outnumbered in my chosen field of engineering by the population minority. Could I have them charged?

    Lets be fair, this is not only in the offices but also the production area. Or maybe I should just man up and not get all PC as i may be persicuted by my mainly minority upper management
     
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    You must have missed Diane Abbott's tweet - ''white people love playing 'divide & rule'. We should not play their game" - where she was accused of racism and forced to apologise.
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    I like the part about being 'forced' to apologise.
     
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    Thought you'd seen it all? Think again : White doll sold at higher price than black doll.

    EDIT I removed the link because it was a story given to the scum rag.
     
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    Well that was the word I chose after reading about 'twitter storms' and 'calls for resignation' - it is PC gone mad. I was only really pointing out that blacks are accused of racism as well.
     
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