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Racism Focus At The Lane?

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. totsfan

    totsfan Well-Known Member

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    i think he should get a life,instead of sticking his nose in where it's not wanted.
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    You can't get life imprisonment for nuisance lawsuits, at least until I come to power.

    Oh, right, I misread what you said...
     
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  3. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    Nothing. It would at best lead to 'yid' being excluded from the list of verboten words, which seems the most sensible outcome.
     
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  4. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I think that should be up to the Jewish community to decide, but if it were the case, then there would be no cause for complaint when opposing teams chant 'Yiddo' at Spurs fans.
     
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  5. totsfan

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    the opposition fans chant Yiddo,so they are just as guilty as us then in offending Jewish people,pot,kettle,black,comes to mind
     
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  6. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    What if the opposition fan is Jewish ? Spurs are not a 'Jewish' club, there are probably just as many Jewish Arsenal fans as there are Spurs fans.

    If a Jewish Arsenal fan chants 'Yiddo' and a non Jewish Spurs fan Chants 'Yiddo' does one have more or less right to do so ?
     
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  7. NSIS

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    Oh dear! Does the phrase "ever decreasing circles" spring to mind, anybody? Pedantry has now been elevated to an art form
     
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    <louis Walsh voice> He reminds me of a youg Richard Briers
     
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  9. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    One's using the term to support their team and one's using it to cheer on a rival team, bizarrely.
     
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    If Liverpool play away against a team wearing red and the referee shouts "blackshirt - Captain" is he entitled to take offence on the basis that he's calling him a fascist?
     
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    What ever happened to free speech,even if it was shouting abuse.
     
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  12. PINKIE

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    Not necessarily, the opposing jewish fan may simply be using it to 'claim' the word from it derogatory meaning to empower his religion. Or certainly this is what he could claim if he were accused of using it to taunt Spurs fans.

    In fact, he needn't be Jewish. If non Jewish Spurs fans are allowed to use it and claim it's 'non offensive' then anybody could reasonably claim they are doing the same.

    And far from pedantry, I'm highlighting where the confusion will arise when it comes to applying the law.
     
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    Free speech doesn't extend to race hate, fortunately.
     
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  14. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Why do you have to attempt spoil a thread on a serious issue due to your hatred of LFC.<doh>

    Admittedly our first 'black' player didn't come through the ranks to the 1st team until 1977 but hes still employed by the club and hes a local lad.

    When we bought Digger from your club the whole racist chant **** vanished and it was our neighbours(along with many other clubs)that needed to change, John Barnes still lives in the Merseyside area and is a champion of the local black community, he gives up his time to be at black cultural events etc.

    Do some homework on the issue of our club before you post Dan.<ok>
     
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    Page - please believe me when i say you've got me wrong on this one. I only mentioned Liverpool because they were the first club who wore black shirts as their away kit that sprung to mind - it genuinely was not a pop at Liverpool on this occsion. I think this specific issue is ludicrous (and for once i do know what i'm talking about having lived in london all my life and having frineds whio support all london clubs) and was using that example for this reason. Apologies but i swear it wasn't meant like that.
     
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    No, the difference being that it's being said with no reference to Mosely's facist Blackshirts, whereas the word Yid is a direct reference to a derogatory term for Jews.
     
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    But how do you know that? The referee might usually call the captain by his name but was taunting this specific player as his great grandfather was beaten up in Cable street in the 1930s.
     
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    Or it could just be a reference to Yiddish, the Jewish language.
     
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    If it were being spoken by a Jew. Otherwise most definitions frame it as being a derogatory term.
     
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  20. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Fair play Dan i apologise for jumping in,<ok>

    Ffs Dan we'll end up mates at this rate.<laugh>

    <ok>
     
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