I really think NP can be our man to change things and I just hope this plan gets 100% support from the top right on down, especially the players that might stay and any new imports. The whole thought processes of Bristol City need a radical change if we are to succeed at a higher level, and who better to show us the way rather than Nigel Pearson?
With the loss of S & D 1 of their wages covers CF the other goes toward paying off their contracts. WE lost a lot of money over the covid period, went from in the black to in the red .... [DID WE TAKE UP THE LOAN?] maybe the loan needs repaying thats almost a players wage!? Now going to run with 1 coach short? or another mate coming on board! Bearing in mind we have the new training ground and plan was more dedicated coaching to dump 2 quality coach's seems odd......... for a few years we have readily been rolled over by journey men and "wrong" staff appointments that at the inception looked good .. hopefully that has gone away??????? BCFC has been a real soft touch!
I don’t want NP sacked yet but I’m certainly NOT one of the new breed of ‘happy clappers’. This old talk of ‘NP inherited a **** squad’ is getting boring now. It’s the SAME bunch of players who LJ somehow managed to keep within sight of a playoff place until the last couple of games several seasons running. Simpson has been a poor signing - no difference there then. Poor decisions, late goals conceded and points dropped, record number of home games without a win etc etc. You lot keep clapping and telling each other how much better he is, whilst in the meantime I look at the league table and the results/performances. 4/10 Nigel. Could do better. Improvement required. You don’t get a golden support ticket from me simply because you aren’t a Johnson or Ashton. You need to deliver.
The same bunch of players that for the last two years was absolutely shocking playing boring-backwards football. I would have not renewed our ST which we have held for over 20 consecutive seasons if LJ or Holden were running the show it was shocking football. At least the majority of football under NP has been much nicer to watch-those players need to take responsibility for those lost points where we could sit in a very different position at present.
Has it?? The odd game, maybe......being totally outclassed on several occasions is not nice to watch...
I certainly do not see the on pitch progression you do. It has been every bit, if not more slow and laboured going forwards than it was pre NP. I would agree that defensively we are more sound and it’s largely been individual errors that have cost us, but going forwards we are no better at all.
WBA-FULHAM-B/Mouth three sides who will be right at the top with squads that make ours look so weak-Three sides that are worth 50 times our squads value. Our points are with the rest of the division who are all very average this season.
Agreed - I think basically we're an average or just below average team in a largely average league with the obvious exceptions being WBA, Fulham and Bournemouth as you've said. You could probably throw a blanket over the other 21 teams and all are capable of beating each other home or away. If Nige gets the funding he needs at some point, can ship out the players he doesn't see as being part of his long term plan here, and bring in ones he really wants, then we could be a different proposition next season and be up there challenging. A sprinkling of new faces with some genuine quality would make the world of difference.
There is no doubt about it we are a very inconsistent team, we are struggling, Nige is 6 months into his task, spent little money, signed 2 excellent, value for money prospects, couple of older freebies, resigned Baker & Weimann, sorted out the wages bill, moved on the hod carriers, sorted out the medical & fitness problems, there is no throwback to LJ or DH for benefits or failure, the culture is different, the morale is higher, the circumstances of survival or times have completely changed, we have a manager who cares passionately about the job he is doing, he has distilled pride back into our players, they are proud to wear the shirt, they don't run and hide away behind rocks, we are not riding high at the moment true, we are about 6 points behind a top 6 place,2 games only, not bad in reality, these are now all NP players, the team is a NP team, the old era has ended, for what ever reason even the coached have now departed, the whole motley crew from MA,LJ down has gone, internal and external, it is a new era, like it or lump it. We have still got some old sirens on here keep throwing up the glory of LJ & DH but those days never existed, the football was turgid, boring, apart from one or two brilliant results, it was a regime of over expenditure, volume signings, broken promises, split fan base and no achievments, we are not financially strong but with some shrewd signings we could easily resume our position as a mid table Championship side and who knows for the future.
Very well put Wiz-I'm sure it will come good-as said he has a monster job on his hands but he is big enough-experienced enough -shrewd enough to deal with it.
1. We are 1 of only 8 teams who spent over a £1M this season in the Championship, so he can't use that as an excuse as every team is the same boat 2. This remains to be seen... 3. 100% disagree with that, say what you like, but LJ couldn't have been more passionate about the job. I see no passion from NP tbh, he doesn't exude any passion or excitement 4. I would say most of what I have seen since NP took over falls in to this category as well, especially the end of last season, and the Millwall game this season 5. I agree, and hope it happens
I can't be bothered to analyse every individual Championships teams transfer budget to compare their performance against NP, that is using the same argument about LJ signing over 65 players and achieving zilch. It's already a proven fact we are achieving comparable points totals and have player availability to other Championship clubs wirh a squad 30% smaller than last season. I won't respond on my personal opinion about LJ, NP is a leader, experienced and has achieved success at our level. To be honest the results have been poor but overall the moral, team spirit, self belief, fitness levels have vastly improved.
totally right these people who keep on about the poor quality of players are probably at the back of the herd /flock and didnt/dont read some of the post on here diligently put up by Wiz or items on BBC links that had NP saying what a fine group of players he had inherited .. their spirit ability etc etc etc this is a poor statement, it is without foundation S&D were proven entities .. in the hour of need oversaw 2 wins away against top teams to end 6 defeats .. again check the comments of NP TOTALLY AGREE when an otherwise reasonably draughted ship goes wonky you check or replace things, if the bit doesnt fit you end up in dire trouble and have to replace the whole shebang or put right the bits that were working. Accepting you have a good squad, praising the coaching team, and then only picking up 22 points from 81 scoring 26 goals @ around 1 goal a game and conceeding 44 @ almost 2 a game is very very poor even on a rebuild scenario FIRST STAGES OF PANIC .. get rid of antone who may have better ideas than yourself ... I really wonder if after SL'S comment of maybe we should have held fire over DH what he is thinking now ... "thank god for the rugby and other sports?"
Red Robin said: ↑ The same bunch of players that for the last two years was absolutely shocking playing boring-backwards football. I would have not renewed our ST which we have held for over 20 consecutive seasons if LJ or Holden were running the show it was shocking football. At least the majority of football under NP has been much nicer to watch-those players need to take responsibility for those losts points where we could sit in a very different position at present. Must agree reporters from 3 or 4 different media all with similar comments of just how poor cant all be right ... my take is we have serious problems in the backroom ....
Pure conjecture, I would agree it's better than the last half of last season under DH and NP, but that's no bar for progress to be shouting about tbh. If the team spirit, morale and fitness are so much better, why do we keep conceding goals in the final minutes of games? That generally points to the exact opposite. I hope NP turns it around, I really do, but there is some right nonsense on here about the amount of progress made in the last 2 years.
SORRY RR cant agree with this comment our points haul is very erratic top teams middle teams bottom teams almost say we benefitted from getting points from teams having an off day....... Well there is a lot of comments in mixed media items posted over the past 12 month's that extoll the virtue of what LJ achieved ... OK didnt get us into the prem, But realistically if you look at the starting point and end point there is a lot high ground with regard to football achievement. Along with SL, LJ was responsible for a lot of the techno stuff now used in the club . SL had a vision of what he wanted ...ground and training it was achieved in LJ's reign We all have our opinions, we all see different pictures. Without becoming a Capt Hindsight lieutenant, I was a supporter of LJ, GJ,SC but looking back can accept they did fantastic jobs....up to a point. I do look at various aspects of what happens on the pitch, and must say Supcon's slant on teams all having the same starting point with lack of finances is spot on ...levelish playing field ... comes down then to how teams are managed to get the best from what they have .... at the moment it is true to say we are bouncing along the bottom with bits falling off ...........
I do so agree with you on this one, we are roughly on a par in the league, a few points worse off but we were on the way down, overspent, overmanned and under performing hence LJ was swiftly dispatched by SL to give us a breath of fresh air, DH was MA's cheap solution and the art of fart continued, nice guy but he had to go, NP arrived on a temporary contract, reality had arrived along with Covid, we were financially bust with what NP inherited, now the whole lousey structure and people concerned have gone, NP signed a 3 year contract knowing the troubled circumstances, Bristol City FC offered him the contract knowing the difficulties he faced, he has dealt or is dealing with the financial, internal and backroom staff that is the progress, with a new CEO he now has to deal with advancing team performance, not bad for 6 months effort, also he has suffered a Covid attack.
