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  1. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan Forum Moderator

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    My all time favourite film, which isn't racist in any way. On the contrary, it takes the mickey out of those who are :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    You couldn't say that was racist.... every f*****got it. He didn't discriminate. <laugh>
     
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    Fawlty Towers now.............<steam>
     
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    Despite the main character being deliberately portrayed as a sad racist bigot who's living in the past ...

    ... Father Ted will be next for the chop <doh>
     
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    I love Father Ted.

    The scene in the caravan where he’s trying to explain perspective with the cows, absolutely hilarious.

    ‘those cows are little, but these ones are far away’

    ‘na I still don’t get it Ted’

    <laugh>
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I've always liked this song by Grace Jones, thought it was class and brilliantly produced ...

    ... no doubt it'll now be banned and all the copies burned, the Nazis started all that malarkey if I recall correctly.

    Here they are destroying all the early Kraftwerk material.

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    "Fire burns, hearts beat strong
    Sing out loud, the chain gang song"
     
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    The next episode to get the chop will be when the colonel says "vermin Fawlty, a dirty rat " ........ for being ratist........



    I'll get me coat.
     
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    Sit down I’ve already got it for you <laugh>
     
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    Surely upsetting the Germans is a good thing.
    I remember from my comics in the 1950's that Germans are evil knuckleheads.
    Also red indians were savages, Africans were black cannibals who wore grass skirts and had bones through their noses, and homosexuals didn't exist, but there were men on the radio who talked funny and said silly things like "Ooh, get her!"
    I guess that the world has moved on.
    :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Written by a black American cop,
    I remember the countless times I canvassed the area afterwards, and asked everyone “did you see who did it”, and the popular response from the very same family members was always, “**** the Police, I aint no snitch, I’m gonna take care of this myself. This happened every single time, every single homicide, black on black, and then my realization became clearer.

    I woke up every morning, put my freshly pressed uniform on, shined my badge, functioned checked my weapon, kissed my wife and kid, and waited for my wife to say the same thing she always does before I leave, “Make sure you come back home to us”. I always replied, “I will”, but the truth was I was never sure if I would. I almost lost my life on this job, and every call, every stop, every moment that I had this uniform on, was another possibility for me to almost lose my life again. I was a target in the very community I swore to protect, the very community I wanted to help. As a matter of fact, they hated my very presence. They called me “Uncle Tom”, and “wanna be white boy”, and I couldn’t understand why. My own fellow black men and women attacking me, wishing for my death, wishing for the death of my family. I was so confused, so torn, I couldn’t understand why my own black people would turn against me, when every time they called …I was there. Every time someone died….I was there. Every time they were going through one of the worst moments in their lives…I was there. So why was I the enemy? I dove deep into that question…Why was I the enemy? Then my realization became clearer.

    Complaint: Police always targeting us, they always messing with the black man.

    Fact: A city where the majority of citizens are black (Baltimore for example) …will ALWAYS have a higher rate of black people getting arrested, it will ALWAYS have a higher rate of blacks getting stopped, and will ALWAYS have a higher rate of blacks getting killed, and the reason why is because a city with those characteristics will ALWAYS have a higher rate of blacks committing crime. The statistics will follow the same trend for Asians if you go to China, for Hispanics if you go to Puerto Rico, for whites if you go to Russia, and the list goes on. It’s called Demographics

    Complaint: More black people get arrested than white boys.

    Fact: Black People commit a grossly disproportionate amount of crime. Data from the FBI shows that Nationwide, Blacks committed 5,173 homicides in 2014, whites committed 4,367. Chicago’s death toll is almost equal to that of both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, combined. Chicago’s death toll from 2001–November, 26 2015 stands at 7,401. The combined total deaths during Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003-2015: 4,815) and Operation Enduring Freedom/Afghanistan (2001-2015: 3,506), total 8,321.

    Complaint: Blacks are the only ones getting killed by police, or they are killed more.

    Fact: As of July 2016, the breakdown of the number of US Citizens killed by Police this year is, 238 White people killed, 123 Black people killed, 79 Hispanics, 69 other/or unknown race.

    Fact: Black people kill more other blacks than Police do, and there are only protest and outrage when a cop kills a black man. University of Toledo criminologist Dr. Richard R. Johnson examined the latest crime data from the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports and Centers for Disease Control and found that an average of 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1st, 2009, and Dec. 31st, 2012. Professor Johnson’s research further concluded that 112 black men died from both justified and unjustified police-involved killings annually during this same period.

    Complaint: Well we already doing a good job of killing ourselves, we don’t need the Police to do it. Besides they should know better.

    The more I listened, the more I realized. The more I researched, the more I realized. I would ask questions, and would only get emotional responses & inferences based on no facts at all. The more killing I saw, the more tragedy, the more savagery, the more violence, the more loss of life of a black man at the hands of another black man….the more I realized.

    I haven’t slept well in the past few nights. Heartbreak weighs me down, rage flows through my veins, and tears fills my eyes. I watched my fellow officers assassinated on live television, and the images of them laying on the ground are seared into my brain forever. I couldn’t help but wonder if it had been me, a black man, a black cop, on TV, assassinated, laying on the ground dead,..would my friends and family still think black lives mattered? Would my life have mattered? Would they make t-shirts in remembrance of me? Would they go on tv and protest violence? Would they even make a Facebook post, or share a post in reference to my death?

    I realized that they refuse to believe that most cops acknowledge that there are Bad cops who should have never been given a badge & gun, who are chicken **** and will shoot a cockroach if it crawls at them too fast, who never worked in the hood and may be intimidated. That most cops dread the thought of having to shoot someone, and never see the turmoil and mental anguish that a cop goes through after having to kill someone to save his own life. Instead they believe that we are all blood thirsty killers, because the media says so, even though the numbers prove otherwise. I realize that they truly feel as if the death of cops will help people realize the false narrative that Black Lives Matter, when all it will do is take their movement two steps backwards and label them domestic terrorist. I realized that some of these people, who say Black Lives Matter, are full of hate and racism. Hate for cops, because of the false narrative that more black people are targeted and killed. Racism against white people, for a tragedy that began 100’s of years ago, when most of the white people today weren’t even born yet. I realized that some in the African-American community’s idea of “Justice” is the prosecution of ANY and EVERY cop or white man that kills or is believed to have killed a black man, no matter what the circumstances are. I realized the African American community refuses to look within to solve its major issues, and instead makes excuses and looks outside for solutions. I realized that a lot of people in the African American lead with hate, instead of love. Division instead of Unity. Turmoil and rioting, instead of Peace. I realized that they have become the very entity that they claim they are fighting against.

    I realized that the very reasons I became a cop, are the very reasons my own people hate me, and now in this toxic hateful racially charged political climate, I am now more likely to die,… and it is still hard for me to understand…. to this day.

    Officer Stalien
     
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    Ah Round the Horne... "Hello I'm sandy and this is my friend julian" some other catch phrase were very rude...such as?
     
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    One of the very few lines that was cut from the original, (or so I read recently) --

    Scene-- dark room, so you could only hear what was going on between Lili von Shtupp and Sherriff Bart.---

    Lili,
    So it's true vot they say about your people.

    Bart
    Sorry to disappoint you Ma'am, but you're sucking my arm.
     
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    This from wiki:
    Sandy: Don't mention Malaga to Julian. He got badly stung there.
    Horne: Portuguese man o'war?
    Julian: I don't know. I never saw him with his clothes on.

    <laugh>
     
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    David O Selznick the producer was a bit of a player, he nailed several of Hollywoods leading ladies under the guise of casting them as Scarlett O'Hara
     
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    A bit of a player
    Fcuk me - nothing learned, no change. misogony at its best.
     
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  17. Sydney Greenstreet

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    you ok hun x
     
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    if i could give you 100 likes for this post i would you sir have nailed it
     
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    Very interesting thread and comments/quotes, wee pearls of knowledge etc

    This isn't about erasing history. It is about raising awareness - the tearing down of a statue man who built a fortune by trafficking people into slavery should be questioned and is even more questionable when it is on display honouring his life. And with that other statues whether commissioned well-meaning officials, sycophants or by the subject themselves should be a subject of local and (in the case of the mass murderer Cecil Rhodes) national debate. Did the people of Iraq erase history when they pulled down a statue of Saddam Hussein? Or did they remove a symbol of tyranny that had destroyed a generation?

    The truth is that many dictators and architects of unsavory regimes have built statues in their own honour and paid for them or being in a powerful position could mobilise funding. There are examples of this in USA with the statues of Confederates who sought to continue white rule and their grandiose statues, a symbol of dominance for their way of thinking.

    As for Little Britain, The League of Gentlemen and Fawlty Towers etc ...well, 40 odd years ago there was a popular TV show called The Black and White Minstrel Show. Today we watch this and cringe. Episodes of Love Thy Neighbour are even more embarrassing if not horrific to think we invited this into our living rooms and it was accepted at the time. Today, because of the legacy of subjugation, cultural appropriation and the exaggerated caricature of the blackface we need to stand by our fellow humans and say "sorry, that wasn't right"
     
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