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Qualifying for the 2018 World Cup

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Steven Toast, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. Leon T Trout AFC

    Leon T Trout AFC Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, if that is the case, Pot 2 would be the place to be.

    Poland and Switz seeded above Spain and France though - mental
     
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  2. Brucebones

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    Poland & Switzerland? How the ****?
     
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  3. Tuckin

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    The race not to be the second-placed team that misses out on the playoffs in Europe is ridiculously complex and confusing, meanwhile. All of Wales, Scotland and N Ireland could conceivably fall into this position (though NI are pretty certain to avoid it).

    Cyprus v Greece and Bosnia v Belgium in Group H might go a long way towards deciding things today. If both Bosnia and Greece fail to win, then they'll be struggling.
     
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  4. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Wales v Eire on Monday night is going to be a cracker.
     
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  5. Tuckin

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    Especially as it's possible that both teams might have to go for the win. We know ROI have to win, but Wales might find a point won't be enough either, depending on other scores elsewhere.
     
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  7. Tuckin

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    Sweden need to boost their goal difference against Luxembourg today if possible. A cushion would be nice ahead of the Dutch game on Tuesday!
     
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  8. Febbos

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    Woooop wooopp!

    Wave the white flag, Dutchies
     
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  9. Tuckin

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    Absolute scenes in Costa Rica as they grab a 95th-minute equaliser to reach the finals (cracking header, too) and players and crowd go suitably nuts.

    Almost seems churlish to note that they were basically there anyway - even without the equaliser, they'd have gone into the last game with a three-point advantage and a 12-goal cushion in GD.

     
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  10. Tuckin

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    Right, by my reckoning this is how we stand with the Europe playoffs...

    In the playoffs
    Denmark, N Ireland, Italy

    Nailed on
    Greece, Sweden

    In unless they nick top spot
    Portugal (sending Switzerland into the playoffs if they beat them)

    In if they win tomorrow

    Wales/ROI, Ukraine/Croatia

    Waiting on others
    Slovakia

    If there's a draw in Wales or Ukraine, then Slovakia are in the playoffs. If both matches are drawn, then Croatia have to outscore Wales. (I'm assuming Serbia won't lose to Georgia at home.)

    The likely seeds are Portugal/Switzerland, Italy, Wales, and one of Croatia, Slovakia or N Ireland.
     
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  11. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    If Portugal and Switzerland are both likely to be top seeded in the WC a group draw, how the **** are they both in the same qualifying groop?
     
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  12. Quill

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    Because Portugal's rankings shot up after the Euros, and the WC was before that.
     
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  13. Amin Arrears

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    Seems a bit of a daft arrangement.
     
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  14. Tuckin

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    The world rankings are pretty fluid. Portugal were a top seed when the draw was made way back in July 2015, but Switzerland were in pot 2 (as were Italy and France).

    Romania were a top seed too, having been ranked 8th in the world then. They've been utterly **** ever since and are now 41st!

    To be fair to Fifa, it's absolutely right that rankings can change signicantly over two years. It would be daft to rank teams based on what a different bunch of players had done 5 years earlier.
     
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  15. Amin Arrears

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    A better way for the rankings would just to be to give every side 3 points for a win, 1 for a draw, and friendlies are worth **** all.

    With goal differences as well.
     
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  16. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    Are England definitely in Pot 2 then? If not, when and how is that determined?
     
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  18. Tuckin

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    I think the draw will be based on the October world rankings (ie before the playoffs), which will be released in about a week. Moving into pots 1 or 3 looks highly unlikely, given our current ranking.
     
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    "I can't ****ing believe it. We Egyptians finally qualified for the World Cup after 28 ****ing years." - Mohamed Salah

    <laugh>
     
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  20. Tuckin

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    So we'll know everyone's ranking for seeding purposes next week - but we won't know which countries will be in the draw. At least one South American team currently above us will miss out, and possibly a European team too (Portugal, Switzerland, Wales).
     
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