Match Day Thread QPR vs Norwich

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Look what ever you think of Hoos, that is unacceptable from the fan...
Going up to a club employee ( Hoos) and shouting when you gonna leave and you are ****.

Even a Saint would have stuck fingers up at him. I would have.


And for the 100th time... Hoos, is not the problem...he has kept us from FFP ramifications ....we have just kept above water with help from the owners....

The Football practices maybe wrong ..but the financial position is just about as good as it could be considering.
 
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The fan is pathetic

Hoos has presided over a recurring £500k a week loss and a £50m debt, a crumbling stadium which is a ****ing disgrace, and allowed shocking contracts to players like Austin, Johansen, Adomah. We have the second highest (to Bristol City) ticket prices in the league. This club has way more people (not just players) on the payroll than others doing much better. Many of them in a **** development function that a decent CEO would have have stripped out years ago. Bravo we have a partially built training centre. If his excuse is Les/the owners made all the bad decisions and overruled me, then he is not a proper CEO, he’s like a less effective and likeable Ron Phillips RIP.

I don’t understand anyone giving him a free pass in this **** show. The governance in this omnishambles is clearly absent, the only person held accountable for anything is whoever the manager is today, safe in the knowledge that their contract will be paid off when they take the fall for failings above and beyond their own.

Let’s be honest, none of us would ‘invest ’ more than a token, conscience salving pittance in this club beyond the kings ransom we pay for tickets. Because we know the way it is run is farcical. This mob could be given £300m no strings and still **** it up and get us into more debt somehow.
 
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sb_73 said:
Just seen Ned on MOTD saying if the Leeds fans really get behind their team against Liverpool tomorrow they will make it difficult for the visitors. Made me think that if we make Loftus Road a cauldron on Wednesday, like we did against Liverpool for the 3-2 win a lifetime ago or against Wigan in the play off semi final…..it will probably make no difference at all with this lot.
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… and they got thrashed 1-6!
 
qprbeth said:
Look what ever you think of Hoos, that is unacceptable from the fan...
Going up to a club employee ( Hoos) and shouting when you gonna leave and you are ****.

Even a Saint would have stuck fingers up at him. I would have.


And for the 100th time... Hoos, is not the problem...he has kept us from FFP ramifications ....we have just kept above water with help from the owners....

The Football practices maybe wrong ..but the financial position is just about as good as it could be considering.
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It would be interesting to identify the fan and get him to articulate what he thinks Hoos has done to deserve this abuse. Here's betting if the fan did, the coherence of his argument wouldn't rise above "He's just ****."
 
sb_73 said:
The fan is pathetic

Hoos has presided over a recurring £500k a week loss and a £50m debt, a crumbling stadium which is a ****ing disgrace, and allowed shocking contracts to players like Austin, Johansen, Adomah. We have the second highest (to Bristol City) ticket prices in the league. This club has way more people (not just players) on the payroll than others doing much better. Many of them in a **** development function that a decent CEO would have have stripped out years ago. Bravo we have a partially built training centre. If his excuse is Les/the owners made all the bad decisions and overruled me, then he is not a proper CEO, he’s like a less effective and likeable Ron Phillips RIP.

I don’t understand anyone giving him a free pass in this **** show. The governance in this omnishambles is clearly absent, the only person held accountable for anything is whoever the manager is today, safe in the knowledge that their contract will be paid off when they take the fall for failings above and beyond their own.

Let’s be honest, none of us would ‘invest ’ more than a token, conscience salving pittance in this club beyond the kings ransom we pay for tickets. Because we know the way it is run is farcical. This mob could be given £300m no strings and still **** it up and get us into more debt somehow.
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Lots of pertinent points Sb - especially with the staff side of things. Also pertinent is if the football side had used its available budget investment to develop the youth as should be expected of them, create a team capable of playing a winning team that debt would be reduced. There is more chance of the fan base dropping away with the football the DoF, managers and coaches are presenting over the last couple of years. I’d say Hoo’s is the least of the problems.
 
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sb_73 said:
The fan is pathetic

Hoos has presided over a recurring £500k a week loss and a £50m debt, a crumbling stadium which is a ****ing disgrace, and allowed shocking contracts to players like Austin, Johansen, Adomah. We have the second highest (to Bristol City) ticket prices in the league. This club has way more people (not just players) on the payroll than others doing much better. Many of them in a **** development function that a decent CEO would have have stripped out years ago. Bravo we have a partially built training centre. If his excuse is Les/the owners made all the bad decisions and overruled me, then he is not a proper CEO, he’s like a less effective and likeable Ron Phillips RIP.

I don’t understand anyone giving him a free pass in this **** show. The governance in this omnishambles is clearly absent, the only person held accountable for anything is whoever the manager is today, safe in the knowledge that their contract will be paid off when they take the fall for failings above and beyond their own.

Let’s be honest, none of us would ‘invest ’ more than a token, conscience salving pittance in this club beyond the kings ransom we pay for tickets. Because we know the way it is run is farcical. This mob could be given £300m no strings and still **** it up and get us into more debt somehow.
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100% agree without condoning any personal abuse being thrown at the guy. Hoos performance has to be called into question. He was brought in to make the club sustainable and that hasn't been achieved.
 
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Ciarrai_Abu said:
100% agree without condoning any personal abuse being thrown at the guy. Hoos performance has to be called into question. He was brought in to make the club sustainable and that hasn't been achieved.
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I’m not saying he is wholly to blame and that others have done better. Just that he’s part of the problem.
 
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Regardless of anything.. he should not...nor should any of the others, be subjected to that abuse.

And if all he does is stick a couple of fingers up...on that aspect he is a saint
 
qprbeth said:
Regardless of anything.. he should not...nor should any of the others, be subjected to that abuse.

And if all he does is stick a couple of fingers up...on that aspect he is a saint
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Bit of a childish reaction by Hoos but understandable. I would have told the 'fan' to go f**k himself if I wasn't being recorded...provided he wasn't bigger than me of course
 
Stroller said:
I've had that a few times. It's thoughtful and it's kind but I can't help feeling a little offended by it and I've only once taken up the offer - when I was pissed.

Someone called me 'sir' the other day!
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Good grief. If you are all that sensitive about it it try this kid psychology. 'S/he fancies me and this is a chat up line.' When you respond with more than a bit of interest and some witty banter and s/he calls you 'a dirty old.....wo/man' then you can get the hump. Sorry that last bit didn't come out right.
 
I'm embarrassed to be associated with a "fan" like that. Nobody should get such abuse.

I think Hoos has done a good job over the years but, more recently, as SB says, he may have let things slip a bit and is not wielding the power that a good CEO should:

1. The push for promotion under Warburton has left us in danger of breaching the FFP rules again which, in my opinion, is a roll of the dice we should not countenance.

2. The length of contracts awarded to Hamalainen, Johansen, Adomah (and perhaps others) have been bewilderingly ill-advised.

3. On the other hand, whilst I am no expert on the contractual situations, I worry that we may be letting the contracts of some of our more valuable assets (e.g. Willock, Chair, Field, Dieng, Dykes) run down without locking them (and their associated transfer value) into QPR for the longer term. If we are attempting to progress things on this front, we should be told.

4. The non-playing staff headcount appears to be way too high for a club in our position and relative to our peers. We cannot afford it.

5. The Development team are not delivering the goods and should be sacked, refreshed and/or reorganised.

6. Our Director of Football has taken us to the brink of League One: no-one in that job should survive that outcome.

7. Our manager situation this season has been a shambles. In particular, I don't see how anyone in a senior position could interview Critchley and identify him as the leader/motivator that we needed.

There's much else wrong with our club for which he is not responsible but, with the above criticisms, Hoos should not feel too secure in his job. We need a reset and it's not all about the playing staff.
 
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Rodney said:
I'm embarrassed to be associated with a "fan" like that. Nobody should get such abuse.

I think Hoos has done a good job over the years but, more recently, as SB says, he may have let things slip a bit and is not wielding the power that a good CEO should:

1. The push for promotion under Warburton has left us in danger of breaching the FFP rules again which, in my opinion, is a roll of the dice we should not countenance.

2. The length of contracts awarded to Hamalainen, Johansen, Adomah (and perhaps others) have been bewilderingly ill-advised.

3. On the other hand, whilst I am no expert on the contractual situations, I worry that we may be letting the contracts of some of our more valuable assets (e.g. Willock, Chair, Field, Dieng, Dykes) run down without locking them (and their associated transfer value) into QPR for the longer term. If we are attempting to progress things on this front, we should be told.

4. The non-playing staff headcount appears to be way too high for a club in our position and relative to our peers. We cannot afford it.

5. The Development team are not delivering the goods and should be sacked, refreshed and/or reorganised.

6. Our Director of Football has taken us to the brink of League One: no-one in that job should survive that outcome.

7. Our manager situation this season has been a shambles. In particular, I don't see how anyone in a senior position could interview Critchley and identify him as the leader/motivator that we needed.

There's much else wrong with our club for which he is not responsible but, with the above criticisms, Hoos should not feel too secure in his job. We need a reset and it's not all about the playing staff.
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1: I always felt Hoos would have resisted the ‘push’; we don’t know if he was overruled by the owners and accepted their edicts. If not - he’s accountable.
2: Completely! I’d love to know who actually signed those contracts off and what their justification was. Barmy!
3: We have been clever at having 12-month options on players so far, but these players are no Eze prepared to sign knowing they can still leave and get a good contract;
4: Yup. Hoos definitely accountable there.
5: OMG what a a shambles … and they were bragging about their achievements :emoticon-0136-giggl
6: Sadly I think he needs to fall on his sword. Legend at this club but he has overseen a shocking decline. Time to recruit a new DoF.
7: We’ve been mugged over by a few managers but Critchley’s persona must have been there for all to see. Surely. Overall our recruitment has been awful - worried about #6 above now.
 
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SW Ranger said:
1: I always felt Hoos would have resisted the ‘push’; we don’t know if he was overruled by the owners and accepted their edicts. If not - he’s accountable.
2: Completely! I’d love to know who actually signed those contracts off and what their justification was. Barmy!
3: We have been clever at having 12-month options on players so far, but these players are no Eze prepared to sign knowing they can still leave and get a good contract;
4: Yup. Hoos definitely accountable there.
5: OMG what a a shambles … and they were bragging about their achievements :emoticon-0136-giggl
6: Sadly I think he needs to fall on his sword. Legend at this club but he has overseen a shocking decline. Time to recruit a new DoF.
7: We’ve been mugged over by a few managers but Critchley’s persona must have been there for all to see. Surely. Overall our recruitment has been awful - worried about #6 above now.
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We’ve had these owners, with varying levels of shareholding, since 2011. Ramsey has been around in a variety of roles since 2014, Ferdinand and Hoos since 2015.

They’ve had their chance.

For reference the average (median) tenure for Fortune 500 CEOs is five years, fewer than 20% stay for ten or more. None of our management team can say they haven’t had time.
 
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