Match Day Thread QPR V Leeds Utd Match Thread

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leeds60 said:
Good Morning to Matt Doc Rik WJ and co from a frosty Bardsey
I watched the highlights yesterday and I have got to say that Bamford should have scored 2 .It was without doubt the worst penalty taken by a professional footballer I have seen and the first half when he merely had to lob the keeper was diabolical
I know that WJ believes he holds the line up well but I tend to disagree with this assessment, WE played QPR who have the second worst defensive record in the league and we still couldn't score so if Bamford is doing his job how come no one else doesn't score?
Last week we couldn't score against Wed and we have been unable and we still couldn't score when you see how Blackburn scpred 5 against them without Bradley Dack so I afraid to say we will not be promoted unless we come up with a solution and I.m afraid to say Bamford must be dropped.We all know we need a striker but we have before the season began and all clubs know this when we enquire The lad at Brum seems to fit the bill he his tall and can head a ball others in the frame Jackie Marriott would lead the line well and has pace.One thing for sure we will not get promoted unless we solve the striker problem sorry WJ .I also think that the frustration was the reason why Phillips got sent off
Sorry WJ but I say it as I feel it
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Sorry, Mike, but Bamford DOES hold the ball up well. There is absolutely no doubt about that. I do agree that he should convert more - indeed, you'd be a straightjacket job if you disagreed. But you cannot blame him for the rest of the team failing to score.

I've said it before & I'll say it again - our goal-scoring performance is a pervasive team issue - not just one player. Yes, Bamford misses a load - but so do the others! They set each other up with loads of chances, but the chances are rarely taken. Bamford gets more chances than most - no argument about that - but even if he got half of our total number of chances, the other half are not being put away either.

I'm not going to launch into a diatribe, but will finish with a quick comparison of Bamford & Costa, who was sold to us as a striker, #10, & winger. Costa (will) cost twice as much as Bamford. Doesn't matter if he plays CB - he's been bought for his skills, goal-scoring included, and should be taking his chances too. He doesn't. Harrison is the same, I might add, but (will) 'only' cost £8m. So in terms of £/goals, Bamford is not doing too badly in the comparison.

And before anyone asks - yes, if we get someone better, I'd gladly see him replace Bamford, but finding someone available & affordable in January is nigh on impossible. Which should come as no surprise, but it seems it has for some.
 
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Whitejock said:
Sorry, Mike, but Bamford DOES hold the ball up well. There is absolutely no doubt about that. I do agree that he should convert more - indeed, you'd be a straightjacket job if you disagreed. But you cannot blame him for the rest of the team failing to score.

I've said it before & I'll say it again - our goal-scoring performance is a pervasive team issue - not just one player. Yes, Bamford misses a load - but so do the others! They set each other up with loads of chances, but the chances are rarely taken. Bamford gets more chances than most - no argument about that - but even if he got half of our total number of chances, the other half are not being put away either.

I'm not going to launch into a diatribe, but will finish with a quick comparison of Bamford & Costa, who was sold to us as a striker, #10, & winger. Costa (will) cost twice as much as Bamford. Doesn't matter if he plays CB - he's been bought for his skills, goal-scoring included, and should be taking his chances too. He doesn't. Harrison is the same, I might add, but (will) 'only' cost £8m. So in terms of £/goals, Bamford is not doing too badly in the comparison.

And before anyone asks - yes, if we get someone better, I'd gladly see him replace Bamford, but finding someone available & affordable in January is nigh on impossible. Which should come as no surprise, but it seems it has for some.
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You're right Bamford, Costa and Harrison, none are strikers, but Costa and Harrison weren't supposed to be, Bamford is maybe a number 10,but we still need 2 strikers then, and you're right now is a hard time to get them, so why in the summer when we sold 3 strikers didn't we, did we only loan an U23 and then not play him knowing full well he would be called back by doing so.
 
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Anyone know how you calculate shooting accuracy? Using the numbers provided, it's impossible to come up with that percentage.

If you calculate 138 as a percentage of 434, it's only 31.87%, not 42.2%. Strange.

Perhaps it's the chances (332) you use instead of the shots to calculate it. Oops! Nope, that's 41.56%, not 42.2%.

So basically, another load of pish stats that'someone's made up & not had ratified.

And another thing, it appears that our 332 chances generated 433 shots! I'd have thought it would be 332 at the most! And presumably 'shots' includes headers?
 
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Whitejock said:
Anyone know how you calculate shooting accuracy? Using the numbers provided, it's impossible to come up with that percentage.

If you calculate 138 as a percentage of 434, it's only 31.87%, not 42.2%. Strange.

Perhaps it's the chances (332) you use instead of the shots to calculate it. Oops! Nope, that's 41.56%, not 42.2%.

So basically, another load of pish stats that'someone's made up & not had ratified.

And another thing, it appears that our 332 chances generated 433 shots! I'd have thought it would be 332 at the most! And presumably 'shots' includes headers?
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You don't need stats to see Bamford couldn't hit a dart board.And you don't need stats to see nearly every other teams strikers can get more on target, you didn't need stats to see Roofe got probably twice the percentage on target .The stats just back up what everyone can see.
 
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See our friends in Germany are gearing up for their teams annual visit to Elland Road wonder if they will actually take off;)
 
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lifecheshirewhite said:
At the end of the day, we have 11 fit unbanned 1st team players next week, it's fooking rediculas, while the kids are alright for a ten minute spell if we are 2-3 goals up, not a one that I've seen has any attacking improvement or defensive improvement to bring to the team. We sold our best U23s from last season to make a few quid, Halme doing great at Barnsley doing the same job Phillips does for us, who is the cover for Phillips we kept ? Ow that's right we've never kept any cover for Phillips have we. We have a great manager who can improve average players to the point where they look good, not one of our current team looked any good 2 years back, so why didn't we buy 5-6 average players that Bielsa believed he could improve in the summer ? We let 19 players go and have 3 in to replace them, this shortage of a striker, Midfielder, Defender is all self inflicted.Time for Rad and Orta to go, none of you have what it takes to get us promoted and you're just taking money out of the club.If Bielsa continues to insist that 11 fit 1st team players is enough then I'm afraid he doesn't have what it takes either, one win in eight isn't bad luck, the same as our run of 20 games after Xmas last season wasn't either. Both are, we're, a poor squad not strengthened.
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Talking utter pish again.

Who were these 'best u23s' we sold? As usual, no detail from Chesh, just an ill-informed opinion with no substance to it. Even if they were our best, how well are they doing in the outside world?

McCalmont has been carefully groomed to take over from Phillips. Spent the whole of last year being screamed at to guide him. Lots of screaming at the start of the season, virtually nothing from February onwards. He's the finished article. Jenkins is now going through this process. Seemingly at a quicker rate than McCalmont, but that's a subjective view. If he wasn't injured, Forshaw would probably be thrown in, as he has in the past, & we also have Klich, who has played there before. White too. But it'll prolly be Dallas, knowing Bielsa. :)

Btw, Halme believed he should be playing regularly for the first team & demanded a transfer. He got it. Remember 'side not self'? The other u23s leaving were so unknown they didn't merit media coverage, so we'll never know if they followed the same path, or weren't deemed good enough.
 
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Whitejock said:
Talking utter pish again.

Who were these 'best u23s' we sold? As usual, no detail from Chesh, just an ill-informed opinion with no substance to it. Even if they were our best, how well are they doing in the outside world?

McCalmont has been carefully groomed to take over from Phillips. Spent the whole of last year being screamed at to guide him. Lots of screaming at the start of the season, virtually nothing from February onwards. He's the finished article. Jenkins is now going through this process. Seemingly at a quicker rate than McCalmont, but that's a subjective view. If he wasn't injured, Forshaw would probably be thrown in, as he has in the past, & we also have Klich, who has played there before. White too. But it'll prolly be Dallas, knowing Bielsa. :)

Btw, Halme believed he should be playing regularly for the first team & demanded a transfer. He got it. Remember 'side not self'? The other u23s leaving were so unknown they didn't merit media coverage, so we'll never know if they followed the same path, or weren't deemed good enough.
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Are you just thick or going senile,Clark and Halme and Odour there's 3,so Halme wanted a pay rise we refused to give him and that's why we have no cover for Phillips next week <doh>, how are they doing, Halme is a regular MOM for Barnsley, Odour has been MOM against WBA, and Clark played in the team who beat us yesterday <doh> So I would say very well. Forshaw can't defend if his life depended on it so if he wasn't a sick note, isn't a replacement for Phillips.
What we do know is the current U23s who are the only fit players at the club we can use as subs, aren't good enough as results show, you said the other week we didn't win 2 games because Eddie doesn't defend like Bamford, can you remind me how the last 2 games gone with brilliant defender Bamford and no Eddie, ow guess you were talking pish again. <laugh>
 
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