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Match Day Thread QPR v Hull City

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Dec 31, 2015.

  1. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it was a brilliant tactical move. What makes you think I do? Are you alright mate?
     
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  2. OneOptimisticTiger

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    You've cracked if you think Hernandez coming off was the reason for their goal being scored. Would he have put in a challenge at right back or defended the cross? Correlation =/= causation.
     
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    On many occasions over the past two years we've gifted the opposition points by pulling off all strikers and putting ourselves under completely unnecessary pressure.

    It's a stupid thing to do and it's cost us far more than it's ever going to benefit us, I can't believe anyone is actually attempting to defend it.
     
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  4. armchairfan

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    They had more impetus leading up to the goal.
     
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  5. OneOptimisticTiger

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    That's a pretty simplistic way of looking at it. What difference does it make whether the player up front is officially a striker in terms of preventing the opposition creating chances? The main avenue through which a striker an relieve pressure is through strength and hold up play. Diamé is just as good as any of our strikers in those two facets so what difference does it make?
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

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    Newcastle away last season, we were 2-0 up on 70 minutes, Hernandez had been subbed off already, Newcastle pulled one back, so Bruce decides to take of Jelavic and leave us with no striker in an attempt to hold the one goal. We spent the last ten minutes under constant attack under they got the equaliser that everyone except Bruce could see coming.

    Four days later, at the cup game at West Brom, we were winning 2-1 with five minutes remaining and he stuck Maguire on for Meyler again trying to hold a one goal lead. It was obviously the wrong decision it got booed, we lost 3-2.

    There are dozens of examples of these negative substitutions resulting in negative outcomes, the only thing that's simple, is anyone who can't see it.
     
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  7. Charon

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    Meyler's contribution most weeks is constantly giving the ball away, slowing play down and passing backwards when were attacking, giving away needless free kicks on the edge of our area and falling over every time anyone touches him
     
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  8. OneOptimisticTiger

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    Good one mate.

    How many times has he done it and we've held on for a win? I would hazard a guess that it's more times than we've lost but you can keep ignoring that to push your agenda if you want cos most people on here seem firmly up your arse.
     
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    We subbed off the strikers at MK and scored a second. It's often a counter productive tactic, but not exclusively.
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    I've given you examples, I could give you many more, if you wish to provide evidence to the contrary, then by all means go ahead.
     
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  11. Real ale tiger

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    sorry mate but that is rubbish
     
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  12. tigermaul

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    Yes that's true about him at Preston, but this is the QPR match thread and yesterday he played pretty well. He started the move that led to Hernandez's goal, and got through loads of work that contributed to a team victory. So perhaps he came back too early from the injury and maybe yesterday's game WAS a sign of him getting back to his best.

    Certainly the Meyler hate from others on here is at best misplaced, at worst ignorant.
     
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    Didn't do much else? What except run himself into the ground for the cause AND start the move for the opening goal ...?

    Save your anti-Meyler bile for when he actually plays badly.
     
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  14. Steven Toast

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    Run himself into the ground? Did he ****! Clucas ran himself into the ground, as if that's a commendable feature of a footballers arsenal. Meyler was just average, not great, not terrible.

    Honestly, some of you can't wait for people to point out under performers, like waiting for a ****ing lynching Don't blame me, I'm not the one who did or didn't play well, I'm just offering my opinion on his performances, which of late haven't been (and I'm sure he'd be the first to admit it) up to his own standards. Of course I could lie and say he's been amazing and really benefitting the team, but there are some who have said he's been our best player in recent games and that's clearly bollocks.
     
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  15. Des Head

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    The last time that we finished a game having taken the strikers off and it's cost us points in the league, was against West Brom a year ago. Both strikers came off injured in the first half.
     
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    I think we can let Bruce off when it's down to unavoidable circumstance, rather than being a decision made by the manager.

    We were actually alright in that game, other than never looking like scoring, it was only a ****-up by Elmo that gifted West Brom the win.
     
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    What lets Meyler down IMO is, when he's good he's excellent, when he's poor, he's awful, there's no middle ground with him. If his first 5/10 minutes are good, then he's invariably good the whole game. If the opposite happens thats for the entire game. IMO what does let him down is that he can't jump. Now I know some will find this hysterical but watch him. At set pieces he's as much use as a chocolate fireguard, in fact I'd go as far as to say a liability and in aerial challenges midfield he comes off second best more often than not. I feel sure Bruce doesn;t know which one will turn up when he 'crosses the line'.
     
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  18. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Ah nice to see you've finally shown up on the match thread after our victory. Strange when we lose you Harper Simon Gray are all ovver the match thread like a rash. Yet when we win... Not so much eh.
    What does that say about you?
     
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  19. Ernie Shackleton

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    Come on Chazz, marra; ditch the iPad and go Android.

    You know it makes sense.












    Which is more than the above does.
     
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  20. TIGERSCAVE

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    It says I was away for New Year with my children and they unbelievably take precedence over this board…. that good enough for you…?
     
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