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QPR v Hull City U21

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by petersaxton, Oct 9, 2015.

  1. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I saw a bit about Laudrup brought another coach in which tread on his toes a bit.
    He did have a fall out with Swansea when he was a player as well.
    Good article from Mr Samuel again.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-future-clearly-Greg-Dyke-blurred-vision.html

    The aim is to create a category two standard academy, which is what Pennock did at Swansea. At the moment, Hull are the only category three club in the Premier League, and pitch their young players in with Scunthorpe United and Burton Albion, not the top tier.

    Obviously, that has an effect. The focus from here will be on local areas, too, such as the working- class constituency of East Hull and Holderness, north of the city, rather than familiar hunting grounds in Ireland.

    Pennock has begun by sounding out leading youth-team coaches in the Hull Boys’ Sunday League, feeding new names into junior structures that Bruce has been determinedly overhauling. Hull now have the beginnings of a youth development squad in the under 21 age group, under the guidance of Stephen Clemence.

    Seriously, though, what took them so long? The most mystifying element of this is how a club like Hull — and there will be many others that are similar — became so detached from football’s essence that they have gone 14 years without producing a player worthy of their shirt?
     
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  2. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. That's why I said I agreed with that part of his post.
     
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  3. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    Once I took my cat to City Reserves
    If I go to another U21 match I may take Rocky
     
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  4. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Why wouldn't anyone want a promotion for more money?

    Money is the be all and end all, it's what the world rotates around. The more the better.
     
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  5. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    When you're a bit older you'll understand. Having enough to be comfortable is important; chasing more than that pales into insignificance next to some things.
     
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  6. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    I would agree if you are talking about 10% or 20% but not if it's 1,000%!
    It could set up the whole family for life.
     
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  7. Tuckin

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    I was talking in general terms about life, not about a specific situation. Hat made a general point.
     
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  8. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    It depends what you mean by comfortable. If by comfortable you mean enough to buy and keep a Ferrari, a private yaught and a heliclopter, I agree.

    If by comfortable you mean having a mortgage on some ****ty £100k council house, a five year old economic car and the ability to shop at tesco or Morrisons ahead of Lidl or Aldi, I'd say you lack ambition.
     
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  9. Tuckin

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    Strangely I mean neither of those!
     
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  10. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    What would you define as comfortable then?
     
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  11. Brucebones

    Brucebones Well-Known Member

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    In general life & jobs, the extra money doesn't make up for the extra ****!
    Pennock's still probably on a decent wedge!
     
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  12. Amin Yapusi

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    As Peter said, circumstances have to be taken into account, although I wouldn't think of it as difficulty of work - £££ I'd think of it as in hours - £££.

    10% or 20% increase isn't to be sniffed at (depending on the job, let's rule out minimum wage ****e and just think about proper jobs starting at a bare minimum of £20k pa). The other thing to take into account is the tax bracket, if you're near the limit of the 20%, then it's probably not worth it, specially if you have plenty of stuff on on your P11 as you'd probably end up losing more than you gain. But, it also depends on the job, and the promotion structure. If you don't take a promotion, you're never going to reach the top. We should always be looking to better ourselves and always looking to fatten our bank accounts.

    Where would the human race be if we all thought "this is easier **** it".

    Probably still clubbing each other to death and kicking pigs bladders around.
     
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  13. PLT

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    I'm sure Pennock is doing a good job but it's pointless until the first tean actually use these players. Luer and Townsend are blatantly miles too good for this U21 level. We've always been told that they play against **** teams and we need Cat 2 to play bigger clubs. Fair enough but now we are Cat 2 and they're still walking it. What more can Pennock and these kids do? If they score 10 every week instead of 6 will that be enough to get one or two into the first team? Bruce even this season has carried on the moan about the U21s playing at a poor standard. So what next, we aren't getting Cat 1 any time soon so what is the plan for these players if Cat 2 U21 football isn't good enough for them and senior competitive football is out of the question?
     
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  14. petersaxton

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    Will going to a League 1 or 2 club be good for their career? The system may be rubbish and the other players may be good, bad or indifferent. If the first team started playing how the U21s play then it may be easier to blood them but it will be a while if at all given that the first team need promotion this year.
     
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  15. tigerscanada

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    Mercenaryist.
     
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    I dont think first team football is out of the question for the U-21s. Luer has performed well when he's been in the line up, Dixon, CJM, and I think Townsend have played too. The mid-fielders and full backs are up against strong competition in the senior ranks but are at least making their presence felt, especially Townsend. I thought Bruce had been quite complimentary about the U-21s.
     
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  17. petersaxton

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  18. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Yaught and heliclopter!! Ace
     
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  19. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    He got the "I" bit right
     
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  20. Happy Tiger

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    I chuckled at those too.

    I imagine the new Liverpool manager has a Helikloppter.
     
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