[video=youtube;3GwjfUFyY6M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M[/video] Last time i used that was when Sonko was sent packing Might not be as a momentus day as that though.
What a strange reply. You are saying what I said whilst telling me you are knowledgeable and I'm wrong. I didn't say SKY didn't broadcast to Italy and Germany or say the didn't show the 3pm games. If they didn't show games at that time elsewhere then there wouldn't be any games to beam back for people to use decoders for would there? I'm also aware some countries show them free to air. But again, as I said, if SKY stopped supplying their pictures to these countries there wouldn't be signals to beam back, would there? Also, I didn't say that SKY don't sell to European countries (show me where I said that). I did say that SKY wouldn't be bothered about losing the European market as only an extremely small part of their revenue comes from Europe. If this goes ahead they could up the prices to such an extent there won't be any European buyers, but they will stay on the right side of the legislation by offering it across Europe at the same price, for example the one they have in the UK. I'm quite aware SKY can't broadcast here because of the effect on other games, (which is why I mentioned that in my post )but they do show games at 3pm in other countries. I've never stated they didn't. Neither did I say they don't already sell to other countries in Europe, so your assertion I'm way wrong is pointless and incorrect. Incidentally, it is you're, not your way wrong. My mate, who supplies satellite equipment, will be interested in the views of someone so knowledgeable. His system can pick up anything from anywhere and he offered to install one for me at cost but I couldn't be bothered. I'm not interested in watching a load of teams I've no connection with and restrict myself to City and internationals. Neither do I want to watch porn in dozens of different languages or repeats of Dallas in obscure foreign languages.
I will apologise if I jumped to conclusions but I thought 'you're' main point was down to Sky not providing Europe with live sports which they do, but one thing I would still like to make clear is that SKY are NOT the only company in europe to show live sports, there are stacks of other broadcasting companies in europe with their own feeds of live games. I can gurantee you're mate cannot pick up ANYTHING from anywhere, INTEL SAT is not possible to pick up in the UK nor are some of the African Sats. These satellite boxes (Decoders) are superb for any sports fanatic. You name what you want to watch... You got it !!! The porn side of things has never interested me either. For £299 anybody can be set up with a decent HD Receiver/Box/Decoder and motorised 1 metre dish including installation, a small price to pay for a mass of 99% of all live Sporting Events including FREE - Sky Pay Per View Boxing/Wrestling events of which nearly all are offered FREE on a Polish Satellite.
The Linnet on Prinny Ave. used to show City games, using hooky feeds from someplace in the Gulf. They stopped when everyone else did, apparently. Maybe they'll start up again.....
Just a thought, but if sky start to lose revenue because pubs etc stop paying subscriptions, will the amount of money they pump into football drop? And if the amount of money pumped into football drops, where will the cuts be? Premiership or lower league?
According to an interview on 5 live this morning, the landlady lost the right to show the games with her Greek de-coder. I had heard this yesterday but it was all confused in the explanation of the ruling. She cannot show the copyright stuff sky include in the original broadcasts. Anyone (who knows what they are talking about) know anything about this?
All the PL will have to do is, Put The PL logo on every feed and the pubs are fcuked due to copyright laws, can't see it changing anything in the long run, in reality she will make it harder for pubs to show foreign feeds.
But, aren't the pictures of Premier league games supplied to all those companies abroad by SKY. I don't think there are dozens of broadcasters with cameras at SKY games, although some clubs have agreements with companies to broadcast all their games. AS I said, SKY wouldn't care less if they had to quote on a Pan-European basis and this meant the higher costs lead to losing the European contracts and money. The only receive £114million of their £1.86billion from Europe. People have got excited and not read the judgement fully. This has made it harder for pubs to legally show these feeds but easier for individuals to get decoders to watch programmes. How long they will be able to continue picking up Premier League matches is another matter.
It looks like this was all a bit of a non story, the Pompey bird still can't show any matches in her pub and neither can anyone else, nothing has really changed at all.
The case is still ongoing. As I understand it, the High Court referred the matter to the European Court for an interpretation of EU copyright law. Now that the European Court has given its ruling the matter will have to go back to the High Court so that those proceedings can carry on. I doubt we'll hear anything more for another 6 to 12 months (unless the case settles). The High Court will almost certainly follow the European Court's interpretation, but we don't know what has been claimed in the High Court proceedings yet so there may be other issues that have to be determined
spot on. she has messed it up for everyone now. when i was in greece a few weeks ago one bar in Kos was run by a Burnley Fan who brought his own living room digibox with him to show sky matches. He has been doing it for years. One or two pubs in the area do the same. Pay a household subscription but show it in the bar. Problems occur when you get caught. There is always a way around it if pubs and clubs want to take the risk.
It will need more than that from sky. It is technically simple to blur the logo. They will need to add unscheduled breaks in commentary and other more devious means to catch the mackrell. And I guess that they will. They are probably already working on it technically and briefing the ambulance chasers in anticipation of its first contractual challenge
No mate not ALL PL games are supplied by SKY this is what I am trying to tell you. I can tell you for a fact that when City were in the prem, in the south stand car park on home games you would always see about 3 or 4 different broadcasting companies camped up in their vans with large satellite dishes put up. These were located right near the sports bar and most of these were NON SKY companies and the same applies at almost every other Prem ground too. It probably has made it harder for pubs to shows Prem games but as for people in their own homes wanting to see lives sporting events for free, cheaper or by other means using a Decoder/Receiver box this has been and always will be possible and will not change a thing.
When Sky sells games to foreign broadcasters the Sky logos are removed and the foreign broadcasters' logos are put in before encryption (according to the transcript of the European ruling). I have read the full transcript so if anyone is interested I can provide a summary
maybe it will be possible to screen such events in the future in 'large living rooms' rather than what we define as pubs. A telly, a fire, three ducks above the mantlepiece and a settee with a family portrait above, plus room for 200 innocent passers-by should be enough to do it. I believe that such broadcasts at home might be exempt from broadcast under the ruling.
There is a potential loophole. Part of the ruling refers to what constitutes "communication to the public" for the purposes of the EU Copyright Directive. Broadcasting to customers in a pub is a communication to the public for the purposes of the Directive, but simply receiving the broadcast in your living room is not, so it is not precluded in Copyright law. There are many more elements to the ruling than the copyright though
