Provocative article on BBC website?

Like that Army who fights endlessly and oh so selfishly selfishly for world domination and mass genocide . . .

. . .Or was that Salvation.

 

No it's not. You should have just left the first sentence how it was. But you went on to explain that in your opinion he's a dick because he's a Muslim.

 

I have no religion as such.

But take Jesus’ message at the sermon of the mount for example. I find it beautiful yet I would describe myself as agnostic.

If I was a follower of any of the conventional faiths my answer would be simple. It is man who has reneged on and manipulated the word of God for his own ends.

In some respects, I envy those who believe in conventional religion as I suspect life might be easier.

 

That's it. Not all men though.

The clergy are just as imperfect as worshippers. It's a constant battle to adhere to the basic tenets and message. Not just watching Songs of Praise , saying Mass. That's how Methodism was born.

Religious people are caricatured as batty, fanatics, hypocrites, freakish busybodies- usually by people who are lazy, apathetic, negative, ill-informed and cynical.

Organised religion has a bad name these days. It wasn't always the case and it doesn't erase the countless thousands of good deeds and practical help done by Christians trying to live by the rules and message of their religion.

 

Is Christianity ultimately considered as counter capitalist and does having a spiritual conscience make you consume less?

In my relatively shortish life so far I’ve seen Christianity restricted, depicted, ridiculed, obstructed, promoted and demoted, pulled apart, laughed at, celebrated, demonised, plagiarised and much more.*

Interesting how this ‘culture struggle’ is parallel to the rise of Islam in this and other western powers.


* I'm not rapping there by the way.

 

Christianity is under attack from Islam, from the liberal left and from nihilistic atheism. Unfortunately, in the C of E, its demise is being aided by lisping beardies and apologists, crusading ***s and happy clappers.

That's why the message matters more than the messengers (who are ephemeral and flawed as much as everyone else).

 

Do you think capital/big business would be happy with a return to a Christian Britain?

 

No.

I doubt there is a consensus anymore of what Christianity is anymore. Songs of Praise is like The X Factor for starstruck asexuals who enjoy singing the same 8 hymns week after week.

 

The difference between Christianity and Islam is that Christianity grew out of violent and repulsive behaviour centuries ago*. Islam, on the other hand, seems to become more and more barbaric by the day.








*With the exception of some sub-Saharan nations, where the animal instinct to brawl and sling **** seems to hold sway over everything the bastards do

 

Never seen a full Songs of Praise – the sight and sound of it brings back childhood Sunday melancholy and angst.

Sunday was a nightmare all in all in the main– all my mates at Sunday school - no kids’ TV on the box and just stuff about religion and the disabled until Sunday dinner circa Walden.

Bath time around 4 and tea time brought SoP then you’d maybe be treated to the uber depressing Last of The Summer Wine with Compo and his other 'at deaths door’ comrades slippering in the coffin nail.

 

Not much better now. Hammy and Captain Slow have replaced Compo and Clegg.

 

Had to Google that/them - initially thought you were saying LOTSW was still on.

 

FFS! Asbo, not content with spouting Royalist-love and class-hatred, now reveals that he's a..............

CHRISTIAN!!!!!

 

Look pal, it's just my opinion, you don't have to like it and I sure as hell won't try to make you agree with me.

I just think the world would be a better place if religion was kept to being a personal thing, rather than the global power people try and make it. Why should what one set of people believe in be the right way for everybody to live?

 

Yep, that's how it reads, because that's what it says.

 

Praise the lord that the mods on this forum haven't seen this thread which is now all about religion, having moved on from racism, neither of which is, quite rightly, allowed on here**, else one of them might have actually shut it the hell down by now.

Consistency, never seen round these parts.

**Banned topics do not include anything on the not allowed list when the Mods are adding to the fire

 

Okay, sorry, no problem, simply being a little provocative, as by stating your belief and repeating it, you have the seed of a religious way of thinking. Religion is not bad (IMO), not even most doctrines, just how they are manipulated by human beings; it is the manipulation of the Koran that is evil, not the teachings. Religion is about faith and belief, you believe what you say is true, you write it, people agree and quote it and the next thing we all have is the Church of Tommytiger. Although 'City Agro Evangelicals' would be a big puller as he has posted some canny gospels on here

 

Have you sent a PM, it's the done thing you know?

 

It was a relatively civilised debate that stemmed from a football related article, but seems to have sunk to dull, petty point scoring, which is a shame but it did well for a school holiday thread on an emotive topic.