Well I'm loosing my patience with bloody Chico, he needs to go back to basics with his game, he's a defender, bloody defend for a change. The play acting grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr stop being the prima donna get a pair of balls and man up, and stop behaving like a prick. Your embarrassing us Jacks with this week in week out.
"It is however true that JDG gets far too much stick when players like Ben and Chico drop bollock after bollock and still seem to be darlings of the terraces" My point exactly. Swanselona, you set out earlier what you expect players in certain areas to do and I accept that JDG does have defensive duties that he often neglects. But turning that on its head I expect our defenders to er....defend. I maintain that poor defending cost us the goals but you're entitled to the opposite view. I do accept that Wllliams being off the pitch didn't help for the first, though I've looked at it again and it really should have been dealt with. If JDG had allowed the player to burst through instead of Chico and Davies I doubt you'd have been so forgiving.
Yup, it's getting more than embarrassing now. He'll get a reputation and decisions won't go his way. Or perhaps he's looking to a future acting career (he's already appeared in a music video). I wonder if he's related to this man. [video=youtube;nAdniWncWu4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAdniWncWu4[/video]
My first team on current form would be Tremmel Rangel, amat, Williams, Davies Britton, shelvey Routledge, poz, lamah Bony Tremmel deserves a start as vorm hasn't exactly been great lately. Davies had a bad game yesterday but Taylor has also been poor. Chico is doing my ****ing head in lately whereas amat has been solid. Jdg should be nowhere near the first team, I've supported him for so long but the amount he gives the ball away needlessly or gets caught in possession is criminal. What makes it worse is that he just takes being tackled, he makes zero effort to get it back! Shelvey is in the team by default as we can't have two defensive mids in there. What I would give to have ki back in the team! Again routs is by default, lamah is the only winger doing remotely well at the moment. God I wish we had Hernandez back right now. Poz is a very good player but would still be second to a fit Michu, and bony I think is crucial right now. Dyer, jdg and tiendalli should be nowhere near the first team at all. Granted dyer scored yesterday, but I've noticed far to much that he runs down the wing gets to the byline, runs out of ideas, tries to come back then gets tackled! This happens about 7-8 times a game! Far to much of a liability. Routs needs to learn that he does have a left foot. If your a premiership player then it should be a given that you can use both feet. This outside of the foot crosses are no good to anyone, they have no pace and no accuracy. Use your left foot Routledge!! Sorry just been very frustrated with our team lately.
Its embarrassing and cringe worthy how we always blame an individual player one week and praise him the next when we ignore the real reason that laudrup is clueless. He has single handedly turned a very good squad of players that we know can play football into a team that look a mess on the pitch....I feel sorry for our players i really do as they are being led by someone who don't have a clue about premiership football. He either changes his idea of how we should play back to what the regular players are use to or come the second half of the season we will find ourselves in trouble...he is losing the dressing room and the board after each and every game rapidly...
Some of that makes sense swans-m but I fear that JDG will yet again be a divisive topic here. I also think you're well off the mark with Dyer. Whislt I agree that as a player JDG doesn't tackle and doesn't defend enough, he also scores goals, provides assists, is our only real quality dead ball specialist and is one of the very few players we have who can actually cross a ball (as he did yesterday brilliantly for our first goal). His corners were almost all excellent yesterday as well. Contrary to some posters here I can't see how he was to blame for us conceding the goals yesterday even though he must feel like he's got a target on his back half the time. Chico and Davies had a job to do and conspired not to do it. Ditto Williams for the second. So, like all our other players JDG's not perfect, but brings more to the table than he detracts even though I accept he's infuriating at times. Same can be said of Dyer. The game changed when he came on yesterday and he scored too. I can't understand how two players who were so pivotal yesterday "should be nowhere near the first team".
Same can be said of Dyer. The game changed when he came on yesterday and he scored too. I can't understand how two players who were so pivotal yesterday "should be nowhere near the first team". exactly....laudrup is all over the place and clueless and that is effecting the team. there is no continuity in the team and it shows big time..
Dai, he was not on about him not being near the first team as regards to Laudrup, as if that was the case, Dyer wouldn't be starting games, granted he didn't start this game, but that can be expected. He is on about a comment further up which claims Dyer and JDG should be nowhere near the first team. Do us all a favour, go beat off about Brendan, and stop using any excuse, even a comment of one of our fellow jacks as a chance to have a dig at ML. Your a fool mun.
say that when we will be playing championship football next season the way we are going. keep licking laudrups arse while he is making us into a team not worthy of his useless management skill. you want to go back to the championship because i don't and it takes a deluded fool to think it cannot happen if we keep on getting results like we have been...It will be too late then to stop licking laudrups arse you might as well carry on...
Dai all this will change the moment we kick it up a gear, which we are very much capable of doing, as we are just going through a bad patch. But just you wait, when that happens, you will be here saying, I told you so, to make out like ML has changed anything, where as the only thing that will change is our players get back on form, and we play to our usual fast tempo. Which funny enough is what Laudrup brought us, as under BR we were too slow getting forward. So stop fantasising about sucking Brendan's cock, and you may see what every other bugger see's, that the only issue is tempo and effort.
To be honest I don't see why daiswan just isn't banned from here, all points he makes are done with WUM being in mind . After 11 games its "laudrup taking us to the championship" we are 13th and exactly where we have been the last 2 seasons!! Im not saying we are playing well,we are not, but in a way doesn't that show we have Gas in the tank ? id be worried if we played really well and were a couple of points worse off! The only spanner in the works is the Euro league its causing us to rotate regular and we are not keeping the tempo and combinations from game to game meaning we are rusty for a lot longer than we should be . Im not happy about our form but I see light at the end of the tunnel. What should perhaps have been 3pts from a penalty against West Ham but not given due to poor reffing and what should have been 3pts against stoke but was not because of yet another bad call is a fair chunk of points that would have put everything to sleep regarding to bollocks daiswan is talking about laudrup all the time . We idnt get that bit of luck and because we arnt playing at 100% and a little bit off form it highlights things when we don't get the rub , it will come though of that im sure . The way I feel now is that id be happy to bin euro football,i think Laudrup has underestimated the extra workload here and its not so much to do with fatique from the players but just a lack of prep time and training ground time meaning that the new players are only intergrating in a game situation which in return is making things disjointed a little bit . The fans need to get right behind the team and stop sniping ,I feel 90% of Jacks are aware of what they need to do, I feel the fans played a part in yesterdays game and if they can keep doing that it will help settle a few nerves and allow players to go for the passes/goals even with the odd mistake . The more informed supporters ie, not the Liverpool fan daiswan can probably see things aint great but that the players are also frustrated with their own form, the Stoke game proved there is plenty of fight in the players and we must take great heart from that. If ever there was a time to hang the manager out to dry yesterday was it! that wasn't the case what so ever the players upped the game and deserved a win, the first half wasn't really bad either they were a bit unlucky that's all. Lets remember that the Swans have no right to beating teams like Stoke and West Ham at home or away ,every point is hard fought and every win we have in the last few seasons has been overall very tight in terms of collecting the points. We havent smashed many teams in the prem league since we got here,so why do we suddenly expect things to change ? Remember the words of Laudrup "we need to spend money just to stand still in this league" well in fairness to the guy he was spot on , we spent 21m a newly promoted team like Cardiff spent 31m !! Southampton have spent over £66m in 2 seasons spending 37m this season alone ! they paid 15m for a striker that doesn't score and 12m for a defensive midfielder! Norwich spent 27m ,west ham 21,5m . These are teams in our part of the table . sunderland spent 19m on transfers and took in 9 players on free/loan !! with a mega wage budget , aston villa spent 19m the list goes on... Lets remember that every game is one mutha fooking battle and we are one of the smallest teas in the league,we are punching above our weight,and no matter what Huw Jenkins says we are still doing premier league football on the cheap . Lets back the players we have and help them get back to top form
Agree with all of that except for this. Why don't people have him on ignore and don't reply to any of his posts? He won't get the attention he craves and also people who do have him on ignore will not see the bilge he posts.
You beat me to it one-eyed. There can be no justification for banning Dai,simply because he airs his opinions. And that's what he does,airs his opinions. Some clearly don't like his opinions,well,guess what,in the real world...!!! So he likes Brendan Rodgers,admires his managerial prowess - so do I. Does that mean that I should be banned? I also like and admire Roberto Martinez,so there's no hope for me then!!! I guess I should be hung,drawn and quartered,in addition to being banned. Dai openly criticises Laudrup and his managerial prowess. So what,he's allowed to do that on an open Forum. Some of what he says makes sense,to me anyway,and admittedly some doesn't,but it ALL does to him,which is why he posts. This Forum exists so that Dai,and everyone else, can air their(insult and abuse free) opinions If that is not the case then perhaps the Forum should be banned in it's entirety. Not much point in having a Forum where EVERYONE has to have the same viewpoint. Everyone who is familiar with Dai's postings knows what to expect by now. Ignoring him is a lot easier than reading his posts and getting all worked up about them.
Swanselona: "the only issue is tempo and effort" Agree 100% with this. When we increase tempo we look dangerous. When we play lethargically we allow opposition players to get back and defend. It's obvious. I also agree with NJ's post but banning Dai isn't the answer. He obviously gets a kick out of wumming so don't bite and stick him on ignore. If nobody replies with quote then it's job done. Otherwise it looks as if we're banning someone because they disagree with the majority. He's so obviously a Liverpool fan I really wonder why he's here sometimes. Sorry Dai but you asked for that.
Agreed about the 4 points we shipped recently due to horrendous referees. Add those and we'd be looking cushy! About Chico. hate his antics but don't blame him for the goal. Ash was off the pitch leaving a huge gap. Davies slipped leaving Chico to cover. He nearly got there, a lucky "wobble" letting Walters in. Chico couldn't have done much more in that situation because if he'd followed through to get the ball, the slightest touch on Walters would have seen him tumbling, a penalty awarded and Chico red carded. I thought Dyer had a good game. The tempo went up when he came on, he got a goal and generally tested the Stoke defence. Routs had a decent game and I've no problems with him using the outside of his boot to cross - used to do it myself. JdG was a bit more industrious than usual but we still need more from him. His failure, along with Leon, who was his usual busy self, let in Stoke's second. I've worked with coaches who would have had them both by the throat in the dressing room afterwards for allowing that. But credit JdG for an absolutely beautiful cross for Bony's goal. Class! Pity he's such an idle so and so. Young Ben is beginning to struggle. Not surprising but he'll be back. Just hope we don't ship too many points in the meantime. Taylor also has much to do but he's still working back to his previous form. Well blessed with full backs when they hit their straps. Lamah is improving without question but needs to do more, get more involved, to get a contract. The occasional glimpses we see aren't enough at this level. As for Poz, his ability is obvious. We won't see the best of him this season but he's getting the experience he needs to be top class for us. Bony? We all know his ability. He just needs the others to be more aware of it and give him the type of service he thrives on. I can see 15-20 goals from him. As for the game, I thought we did OK in the first period bar two defensive lapses. In the second period, we tore them a new one. It was a terrific response by by the lads and gave me fresh hope that all will be well this season and full marks to Laudrup for some good substitutions. No fault of his, or the team's, that we were cheated out of three points. Final point. Alan Shearer (MOTD 2) said something along the lines of: I am reluctant to praise players for working hard because that should be the norm. As a top class, highly successful player, his words carry weight. Some of our players would do well to heed them.
Vetch as you know ive been in total agreement for ages regarding said poster, we have fought his corner together in fact. the point is that the flow of debate and indeed of the forum constantly goes down when the Liverpool fan decides to stealth WUM . He never debates ! So what is the point ? The latest swipe is that Laudrup is taking us to the championship, well that may be true but after 11 games thats a totally bang out of order comment to make,the point is that if he was a swans fan he wouldnt be making it ! He never debates yet apparently always deals in "facts" when asked about any of those facts he answers in riddles or sticks his head in the sand. I have heated debate with nearly everyone on here but i respect the fact that one person beleives A and the other person beleives B ,we argue about it,debate about it,swap the odd fact or the odd light insult and then move on to the next topic . The topic is always the same with this guy though , i dont mind him always being wrong but i do mind when he spunks all over good debate on threads i and others create, i will not ignore i will play his game ,ive said the exact same thing before ,everytime he talks his bollocks i will will answer him with bollocks. You guys fight his corner if you wish, i dont care less. The guy got found out a while ago saying people were abusing Laudrup in the liberty,shouting at laudrup to sort it out, unfortunatly for him one of our posters sits right near the dug out and pointed out that nothing like that what so ever took place !! now somebody was on a major stealth wum and got nailed 100% by a genuine non confrontational regular poster on here, daiswan left with his tail between his legs ! Is that the type of thing a genuine swans fan does ? Would any normal jack come on here and make up **** like that pretending that the people in the west stand were baiting for our managers blood ? I would say the answer to both is NO FOOKING WAY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANY JACK TELL ****ING LIES LIKE THAT I rest my case, if you want to get sucked in by that ***** feel free PS Yeah, he is a total ****ing ***** so ban me. i just make up another name ,join and call him a total ****ing ***** all over again
A typical comment from the Liverpool fan in case some of his defenders missed it . "Very proud of brendan and his success at a big club and he is proving hands down without any shadow of doubt that he is a far better manager than laudrup will ever be, He has took his philosophy that he had with us to liverpool and now they are reaping the rewards while we go backwards at a rate of knots under laudrup...the table does not lie however much some jacks are deluded that they would prefer a loser to a winner...Keep it going Brendan you have proved your doubters wrong just like some of us knew you would.." -Daiswan. Didnt Liverpool spend over £60m in the summer,good luck to them and to Brenden but dont for one minute think that this guy is a fan of our club,he is not,he is just making mugs of you
You only have to look up to realise Dai knows very little of what he is talking about. Swans-m made this comment Too which KJ made this comment Too which Dai repied The guy does realise that Dyer started 9 of our 11 premier league games, and played the other 2 as a substitute right? He also knows Dyer has started 4 cup games this season too? Yet he has a pop at ML, for a comment someone makes about wanting Dyer not to start, and Dai makes out Dyer not starting is why Laudrup is clueless...beggars belief You can defend that all you want Vetch, but you best be prepared to watch and read as I respond back too him. And don't even attempt to tell me to put him on ignore.
what is the matter lads cant face what is actually happening to us....Im the only loyal supporter who actually goes to every home game and pays my money than the armchair fans who don't have a clue what goes on at the liberty and never will. This is not a forum for just the armchair fans you know as sometimes the fans that go wont be as deluded as you I have told you before norway when you write your postmortem after the match that we are all laughing at you...you was not there so cut the crap about banning as if anyone would know what the feelings of the fans are then it wont be the armchair fans....
