Protest @ SJP

[expat_mag]

Agree, that the Carroll deal as a bloody good sale, but come on!!! What's the point in selling our best players if we don't invest ONE PENNY in any new players, and instead make a profit of 600K! It's not all doom and gloom, but we needed a striker before carroll, and replacing him with an injury prone, inexperienced player with half a season of EPL experience doesn't cut it for me. If Ashley wanted to show ambition, he would have bought a quality, proven goalscorer. If you can't see how badly we are missing one, there must be something wrong with you!

(sorry to post after post, but i need to reply to this)

The problem here is that the owners of NUFC do not see a signing as the first outlay. That is to say that a player costs more than the transfer fee.

For example Cabeye costs the transfer fee *plus* his wages for the contract *plus* extra costs.

Now, this might mean we have less to spend. But it does mean that the day of Fat Freddy Shepard hiding the real cost of players in dodgy dealing are gone. The Carroll money, as far as I am concerned *has* been spent. But not on transfer fees, it has been spent on PLAYERS. (And good payers, as far as I am concerned)

This is no bad thing. You might say i'm an idiot, you might say i'm an ostrich with my head in the sand...

But in the future i'll still be supporting NUFC, and if we carry on this way, i'll be supporting a club with a sensible financial model that means the club won't collapse like a Leeds, Portsmouth, Plymouth... (Liverpool, Man Utd, Man CIty; when their owners get bored and leave?)

 

[Jerel Ifil]

We don't need to protest to show we care about our team - everyone knows our fans care about our team - we are the best supporters in the world!!

I never said you needed to protest to care about your team. Just correcting the view that outsiders necessarily perceive Newcastle fans who are protesting as idiots. People on this thread are making out that they're just doing it because of a desire to cause trouble and be rowdy. To me, it just comes across as understandable, passionate frustration which they have every right to express.

I'm doing the same at my own club.

 

[Zingy]

I might just watch.

 

[QWOP]

Very true. I was just going from a York point of view. A lad was arrested for stealing a car, because he left his Newcastle shirt in the car

There are not many of us about. I assume he was not a local!

 

[Minty Fresh]

If we're going to protest about anything it isn't that we didn't buy a striker, it's that Ashley is destroying the atmosphere and ruining the stadium.

Not that I want a protest.

 

[expat_mag]

If we're going to protest about anything it isn't that we didn't buy a striker, it's that Ashley is destroying the atmosphere and ruining the stadium.

Not that I want a protest.

And that *is* a good reason to make a stink...

 

[goldie]

And that *is* a good reason to make a stink...

And selling our best player and basically turning us into a no frills seedy operation.

 

[Jonas' Dance Teacher]

I never said you needed to protest to care about your team. Just correcting the view that outsiders necessarily perceive Newcastle fans who are protesting as idiots. People on this thread are making out that they're just doing it because of a desire to cause trouble and be rowdy. To me, it just comes across as understandable, passionate frustration which they have every right to express.

I'm doing the same at my own club.

Who is your owner now?

 

[P.T.N]

There are not many of us about. I assume he was not a local!

Bell Farm. So, probably was a local.

 

[Jonas' Dance Teacher]

Who is your owner now?

Ah Ken Bates isn't it

 

[Jerel Ifil]

Kenneth W. Bates.

 

[Jonas' Dance Teacher]

Kenneth W. Bates.

Yeah, is he another Mike Ashley?

 

[A November Night In Rotterdam]

We have a **** team and the first 3 games have simply papered over the cracks, we will sharp be discovered when the other teams take the numerous chances weve allowed them.

What?!

Had we signed Ruiz/Cisse on the last day, people would've been talking of Europe. A lack of a real class striker does not make a team ****.

The majority of Premier League teams would take Krul, Saylor, Colo, Santon, Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa, and maybe Jonas. That's 7/8 out of our first 11. So are you saying 3/4 average players make an otherwise decent team ****?

Don't exaggerate.

 

[Jonas' Dance Teacher]

What?!

Had we signed Ruiz/Cisse on the last day, people would've been talking of Europe. A lack of a real class striker does not make a team ****.

The majority of Premier League teams would take Krul, Saylor, Colo, Santon, Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa, and maybe Jonas. That's 7/8 out of our first 11. So are you saying 3/4 average players make an otherwise decent team ****?

Don't exaggerate.

This.

 

[QWOP]

Bell Farm. So, probably was a local.

Ach most probably! Some scrote from the estates trying to be a "bad man"


Anyway, there is no point in protesting. MA won't care and it will not impress the new signings!

 

[mag la rue]

If Ashley's raking in the cash he's not going to sell up. A protest won't change the money dropping in his pocket. Plus why would anyone pay 100million for a club that owns nowt even if it is debt free?
Fans are still going to spend on the club. Next season a new shirt comes out and you can guarantee sports direct will ship a few. He has a lot of sacs in his hands here and a protest just gives him the chance to squeeze a bit more. The Liverpool lot shipped out because the banks forced it more than the protests. Unfortunately the banks won't have much say on Newcastle. All a protest does is provide airtime for ****tards. No matter who turns up at the stadium the tv producers going to be thinking ... We could have an intelligent discussion about the error of Mikes ways with this supporter, but look here, I've just pulled this gap tooth drunk from a ditch, lets see what he has to say, it's what the nation wants.
A long shot but could fans turn their backs on the directors box prior to kick off? 40-50,000 on match of the day sending out a message of disapproval to the board yet supporting the team.

 

[Taylors Tricks]

protest? that will achieve nothing and probly cause more damage to the dressing room, or drive our players on and make our strike force want to prove us all wrong

besides I leave for Riga in Latvia tomarrow morning for a weekend of drink and strippers

 

[Jonas' Dance Teacher]

protest? that will achieve nothing and probly cause more damage to the dressing room, or drive our players on and make our strike force want to prove us all wrong

besides I leave for Riga in Latvia tomarrow morning for a weekend of drink and strippers

Not jealous

 

[Jerel Ifil]

Yeah, is he another Mike Ashley?

I suppose you could compare them in the sense that both owners got their clubs relegated, are recklessly ruining atmospheric old grounds, isolating fans and failing to reinvest money gained from players and supporters. I don't know the ins-and-outs of the Ashley tenure at NU though so I'm not sure to what extent he's similar to Bates in those respects. Pretty sure that's the gist of both fan sets' gripes; correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Kyle?]

What?!

Had we signed Ruiz/Cisse on the last day, people would've been talking of Europe. A lack of a real class striker does not make a team ****.

The majority of Premier League teams would take Krul, Saylor, Colo, Santon, Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa, and maybe Jonas. That's 7/8 out of our first 11. So are you saying 3/4 average players make an otherwise decent team ****?

Don't exaggerate.

You do have a good side, apart from a striker. Why don't you play tiote up front, us lot at the emirates know he can strike a ball.