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Sorry KDS ... watched it on the Football League Show, and it wasn't offside. Didn't see anyone claiming it either.

In other news ... are you guys STILL going on about the goal that never was? Everything evens out, penalty decisions, offside decisions ... it's only because this was a "ball crossing the line" incident that it's stuck in your mind so much. Let it go, this is football.

Good luck in the play-offs.
 
I was going on a one-eyed view of a Southend supporter on 606 which is better than a zero eyed view of a certain Mr Wigglesworth.

As regards the evening itself out view. I explained previously that if a referee does not give a decision for you he can make the excuse that he was unsighted. More to the point----number the decisions given TO Wycombe which should not have been given or those given to your opposition which should not have been. As far as Shrewsbury is concerned I can think of one for the opposition (you know which one) and maybe a contentious penalty which the ref could argue was correct. I cannot think of any occasion where Shrewsbury have been the recipients of such largesse.
 
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KDS, with all due respect you really are talking out of your bum hole mate, and I'm not quite sure what you are implying.

If you want to apply that rule, I can think of at least 6 decisions this season alone where we should have had penalties and didn't, in games we drew and therefore would have won, meaning this subject you're bringing up would have been completely irrelevant as we'd have been way ahead. SImilarly, I bet any one of your fans on here can think of other things similar for you, both for and against. Unfortunately it's completely irrelevant. What do you want, a replay? It's footy, if you don't like it, follow Pele and see if we can have a game of four quarters with kick ins instead of throw ins and bigger goal mouths. It's unfortunate for you that you've lost out by a point to the team who scored a highly dubious goal, and you could have had all three at your place instead of drawing against us, but for the shortsightedness of a ref. However, you could also argue that we should have got promoted a season earlier from the conference in 1991/92 and then we'd already be in League 1 and not playing you this season, however that's the way it goes. I do think that if every decision was a correct one, there wouldn't be much difference in the placings. Until they get computers to replace referees that's what's going to happen. So shut up and get behind your team for what could be the biggest three games of their lives. If you go up through the play offs you'll have made more money than us and achieved the same objective, still, if that happens and we take your idea to the letter you should probably give us all your winnings as it should have been us there. That will even things out.
 
If you go up through the play offs you'll have made more money than us and achieved the same objective, still, if that happens and we take your idea to the letter you should probably give us all your winnings as it should have been us there.
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No in all seriousness though Shrewdemic, good luck in the play offs. My money's on you and I hope we do get to play you again next season. In face, can we play you every week?
 
Chairboyjock said:
KDS, with all due respect you really are talking out of your bum hole mate, and I'm not quite sure what you are implying.

If you want to apply that rule, I can think of at least 6 decisions this season alone where we should have had penalties and didn't,
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You still do not see the point which was grasped by some of your compatriots. If a penalty decision goes against you the ref has the excuse that he cannot see. The phantom goal is another matter. The linesman guessed instead of admitting he could not see. It was also interesting to note that the Football League Show highlighted the Wycombe goal and said that our league positions should have been reversed.


As to the equalizing Wycombe goal, it looked close to being offside but I could not say definitely, as my name is not Wigglesworth.
 
What KDS is trying to point out is that if you have to guess you shouldn't give it; If in doubt disallow it.
 
Against both crewe and bury, wycombe suffered from poor penalty decisions. Against Stevenage, Mousinho wasn't sent off for a 2 footed ankle breaker on Lewis, against Macclesfield Dave was sent off for nothing and in the other match against Bury, sodje did about 10 hacks and blatant pushes against our players and wasn't penalised. We dealt with this and carried on, the same way Shrewsbury should have.

The phantom goal was months ago, if Shrewsbury were that much better they would have won more games than us overall and they should have got promoted regardless of the goal. Furthermore, what if the goal hadn't been scored and we had scored 5 minutes later? There was still time on the clock, anything could have happened. This is a weak argument and those still bitter should deal with it and stop complaining.
 
i watched the football league show last night and saw the replay of wobblers phantom goal, this was the first time i have seen it and of course shrews had lots to complain about and rightly so. but when all is said and done shrews have thrown so many points away this season, that the phantom goal joins the swings and roundabouts of a good season for both clubs. we had our chances and fluffed some of them. now we have another chance, but our track record of 1 point out of 6 against the gulls is not encouraging neither is ackers 14 game unbeaten run if we did beat the gulls. i am ignoring stevenage as i do not rate their chances against ackers. i suspect stanley may make up the foursome. prove me wrong shrews. who are we? shrewsbury town, englands premier borough. floreat salopia and 3 loggerheads
 
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in the other match against Bury, sodje did about 10 hacks and blatant pushes against our players and wasn't penalised.
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He's good at doing that!! Been a thorn in a lot of Strikers side in L2 for a long time. Shame he's getting on a bit now.
 
theblues said:
Against both crewe and bury, wycombe suffered from poor penalty decisions. Against Stevenage, Mousinho wasn't sent off for a 2 footed ankle breaker on Lewis, against Macclesfield Dave was sent off for nothing and in the other match against Bury, sodje did about 10 hacks and blatant pushes against our players and wasn't penalised. We dealt with this and carried on, the same way Shrewsbury should have.

The phantom goal was months ago, if Shrewsbury were that much better they would have won more games than us overall and they should have got promoted regardless of the goal. Furthermore, what if the goal hadn't been scored and we had scored 5 minutes later? There was still time on the clock, anything could have happened. This is a weak argument and those still bitter should deal with it and stop complaining.
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Try reading the whole thread before commenting like this, particularly the comment above your original post. Nobody has ever suggested the difference between the teams was huge but the fact is that such a contentious decision between 2 teams who ended up so close has seldom, if ever, had such a great effect. This was pointed out on the Football League Show last night.
 
theblues said:
Against both crewe and bury, wycombe suffered from poor penalty decisions. Against Stevenage, Mousinho wasn't sent off for a 2 footed ankle breaker on Lewis, against Macclesfield Dave was sent off for nothing and in the other match against Bury, sodje did about 10 hacks and blatant pushes against our players and wasn't penalised. We dealt with this and carried on, the same way Shrewsbury should have.

The phantom goal was months ago, if Shrewsbury were that much better they would have won more games than us overall and they should have got promoted regardless of the goal. Furthermore, what if the goal hadn't been scored and we had scored 5 minutes later? There was still time on the clock, anything could have happened. This is a weak argument and those still bitter should deal with it and stop complaining.
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The non-goal is a contentious topic but let's clear up a few apparent misconceptions:

1. First and foremost, we've known from full time on 19 March that it's gone and nothing will change it. Nor will it be a distraction to players or fans in the play offs, whatever the outcome.

2. No-one's suggesting Wycombe are in the wrong. You were wrongly awarded the goal but what else could you do but take it? And you've finished the season well to clinch 3rd place so well done. Yes there's some bitterness, but it's directed entirely towards Wigglesworth and Linington (and I hope they might both return to the Meadow one day, to receive a warm Salopian greeting). I'm not saying Shrewsbury are better than Wycombe, just that you were given an unfair advantage that's turned out to be the crucial difference between us.

3. Of course it'll go down in Shrews history as the officials' howler that cost us automatic promotion, just like the last minute corner that wasn't a corner from which Gillingham won our last play off final. A sense of grievance is part of every football fan's lot. Like you accepting the gift of the "goal", what would you expect us to do, say "oh well it's just one of those things"? Would you, in the reverse situation? I don't think so. It's part of our history now and nothing can change that. And the comments of neutral observers, as on the FL Show last night, suggest we're not unreasonable in feeling aggrieved.

4. It wasn't a "things that even out over the season" type of decision, so those comparisons are off the mark. And it was about 7 weeks ago, not "months" as theblues says. Everyone has penalties not given and opponents not sent off (we had both in the infamous 2nd half against you). I haven't seen anyone else suffer such a demonstrably wrong decision that had such an impact on the outcome of such a vital game, and ultimately the season. Show me a direct comparison if you know of one - as long as it isn't a matter of opinion and it's between maybe Barnet and Lincoln and it resulted in a 3 point adjustment in favour of the wronged team - then I'll feel better about it.

5. None of this affects you enjoying your promotion and your telling us to stop complaining won't stop us feeling aggrieved. But neither do we feel negative about the play offs for a moment. If we don't get through, it won't have anything to do with this.

6. That's all. Onwards and, hopefully, upwards.
 
theblues - you missed the point if the goal that never was had not been given Shrews would have had a better record than Wycombe.
 
phantom goals, penalties not given, unfair decisions, coulda, woulda shoulda......etc etc
A complete waste of time and energy even discussing it.
I understand the frustration of missing out (we are the kings of making a mess out of it), but suggest you channel your energies getting behind your team because nothing is going to change from the past. To be blunt, you had your chances to secure automatic promotion and it was in your hands. Sadly for you, you just missed out.
 
Matster, what I am pointing out is that the lino at the time didn't 'guess' anything, he thought he saw it cross the line which is why he gave it. So that argument doesn't stand up. It didn't cross the line, it shouldn't have been a goal and he made a mistake - but them's the breaks. It doesn't matter about the 'if in doubt disallow it' because at that split second, you cannot be sure he was in any doubt whatsoever, unless you get him to say 'I wasn't sure and shouldn't have given it'. It was a mistake, that benefitted us. Just like mistakes benefit you. I'm afraid I don't see the difference between this and other decisions that haven't gone people's ways because the linesman or ref thought it was one way when it was in fact the other.

Anyway, it's gone, it's over, fortunately for us it was in our favour and unfortunately for you it wasn't. I still don't believe it was the tide that turned the placings on its head, there was another 4000+ mins for football over the season where that could have happened. I do hope you go up though, I'm loving the banter and I ****ing hate Stevenage.
 
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