Off Topic Prince Andrew

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Blimey, I just read back, I never realised this only happened around 18 years ago. How the fook can he not remember her, when there is a picture of him with her. I also got confused with her name, didn't relaise it went from Virginia Roberts - now Giuffre.
 
brb said:
I didn't think it was anything to do with age that was in dispute (ie she was 17) - I thought the accusation was she was used as a sex slave.
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at his age 17 is noncing if you ask me and I never liked him in the first place, so I was bound to stick the knife in I guess.
 
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brb said:
I didn't think it was anything to do with age that was in dispute (ie she was 17) - I thought the accusation was she was used as a sex slave.
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It’s a number of things. The prime one being she was allegedly coerced into shagging him on 3 separate occasions, when he was 41 and she was 17/18.

She alleges there was an orgy with another 8 young girls and him and her, and she says some of the girls didn’t speak English but looked younger than she was.

Epstein gave him what he wanted - sex with young women / girls, hence the reason he risked hooking up with him again after Epstein had done time.

The fact he’s a Royal should make this a story that results in him being finished, but it won’t.
 
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Steve Bruce said:
at his age 17 is noncing if you ask me and I never liked him in the first place, so I was bound to stick the knife in I guess.
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i didn't realise he was 40ish at the time, I thought this was about something from his younger days. Hence why he coudn't remember....ok fair enough, I'm getting the picture now, I don't follow these stories like you fookers.
 
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Tobes said:
It’s a number of things. The prime one being she was allegedly coerced into shagging him on 3 separate occasions, when he was 41 and she was 17/18.

She alleges there was an orgy with another 8 young girls and him and her, and she says some of the girls didn’t speak English but looked younger than she was.

Epstein gave him what he wanted - sex with young women / girls, hence the reason he risked hooking up with him again after Epstein had done time.

The fact he’s a Royal should make this a story that results in him being finished, but it won’t.
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I never realised he was 41 at the time. I just assumed this was something more from 41 years ago rather than an age of 41....oops my doh.
 
brb said:
i didn't realise he was 40ish at the time, I thought this was about something from his younger days. Hence why he coudn't remember....ok fair enough, I'm getting the picture now, I don't follow these stories like you fookers.
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not officially a nonce , but a bit sick … Tbh at 17 I knew what I was doing , so im being unfair.. I think there's a huge difference between a nonce and an older man shagging a young girl , but 17's a bit fresh for my liking that's all.
 
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Steve Bruce said:
not officially a nonce , but a bit sick … Tbh at 17 I knew what I was doing , so im being unfair.. I think there's a huge difference between a nonce and an older man shagging a young girl , but 17's a bit fresh for my liking that's all.
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Like I said, I didn't know he was 40/41 at the time, and in fairness to me, it was the first question I asked on here.
 
brb said:
I never realised he was 41 at the time. I just assumed this was something more from 41 years ago rather than an age of 41....oops my doh.
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It’s not just the age though, this wasn’t a young girl being seduced by an older man.

This was young girls being served up to an older man, after being coerced and trafficked.
 
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Tobes said:
It’s not just the age though, this wasn’t a young girl being seduced by an older man.

This was young girls being served up to an older man, after being coerced and trafficked.
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Yeah I had already accepted that point, albeit I might not have said it. I was accepting there was an allegation of sex slavery. I just wasn't sure where the age bit had come into it, when chaos called him a nonce. The two separate issues confused it for me, now I understand the detail I get it.
 
Tobes said:
It’s not just the age though, this wasn’t a young girl being seduced by an older man.

This was young girls being served up to an older man, after being coerced and trafficked.
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yeah it's not a pleasant story, but she didn't have to **** him she had a choice and was old enough to know what she was doing. I'm not condoning the behaviour of this vermin, but I'm just highlighting that I think people forget what they were doing at 17 and I was capable of making my own decisions well before that tbh.
 
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Commachio said:
was she the one that there's supposed to be pictures about?

they got nicked in some robbery?
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That rings a bell.

One of her “gentlemen friends” was occasional actor and alleged villain, Johnny Bindon. This bloke (who she denied ever having met until this photo surfaced)...
 
Steve Bruce said:
yeah it's not a pleasant story, but she didn't have to **** him she had a choice and was old enough to know what she was doing. I'm not condoning the behaviour of this vermin, but I'm just highlighting that I think people forget what they were doing at 17 and I was capable of making my own decisions well before that tbh.
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How do you know that?
 
brb said:
Yeah I had already accepted that point, albeit I might not have said it. I was accepting there was an allegation of sex slavery. I just wasn't sure where the age bit had come into it, when chaos called him a nonce. The two separate issues confused it for me, now I understand the detail I get it.
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The dirty, over privileged twat was part of Epstein’s select sex club, getting his rocks off with young girls served up to him. He’s been caught and Epstein’s convenient ‘suicide’ ensures that he can’t plea bargain and drop the likes of Randy Andy, Trump and numerous others in the **** by spelling the beans, to try and reduce his own sentence.

Disgusting ****s.
 
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Steve Bruce said:
yeah it's not a pleasant story, but she didn't have to **** him she had a choice and was old enough to know what she was doing. I'm not condoning the behaviour of this vermin, but I'm just highlighting that I think people forget what they were doing at 17 and I was capable of making my own decisions well before that tbh.
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I was homeless at 17.
 
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Libby said:
Differs from state to state I think so presumably it's 18 in Florida.

Just checked and it varies from 16-18.

I'm sure you can be married at 15 in some states though...
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Jerry Lee Lewis’ first wife (who was also his cousin) was 14 when they legally married in the State of Tennessee, some time in the 50’s.
 
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