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  1. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

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    If he's key why did none of the £90m he spent go on a backup?
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I'm just saying those that did play obviously didn't do their job and thst points to them letting gueye do all the Work and they swan about.

    It's amazing that the top clubs don't have guys doing that.

    Lads like Pogba are the read on Utd are where they are too.
     
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  3. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    You mean Man City with Fernandinho? Chelsea with Kante? Liverpool with Fabinho?
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Don't tell me you haven't noticed

    A) Chelsea have jorginho as deep lying playmaker and kovacic and kante as well.. as a three all defending and all contributing.

    B) David Silva actually defends, as does de bruyne as does Bernardino silva. Amazingly thry don't just stand about

    C) lfc played a 4231with a midfield 2 last game and Keita playing as a ****ed in left wing and mane right.

    Shocking isnt it.... these sides don't just plonk one manto do all the grunt work while the others show boat.

    It's like thinking busquets, xavi and iniesta had busquets water carrying while the others fannied about
     
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  5. Solid Air 2

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    yeah we all saw on Saturday how well all the others defend for Man City <laugh>
    PS Silva could have played Schniederlin to replace Gana / Gueye but didn't bother (until he subbed him on too late to matter) hence no defensive screen.
     
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  6. BobbyD

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    Gomes is quality but zouma has been terrible for a while and continues to be for your side. Not sure hes decent lol
     
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  7. Solid Air 2

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    thought Keane was truly dreadful as well
    actually the whole back 5 were .
     
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  8. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Not to mention how bad Chelsea are defensively now they want Kante up the field and not defending
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Hmmm.

    Chelsea finished 5th last year conceding 38 goals and are currently 4th having conceded 15 goals after 18 games.

    Hmmmmmmm...


    Something just doesn't quite add up there
     
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  10. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Yeah pick the year they all stopped playing for the manager. What about Leicester’s defence when they won the title with Kante as the DM. And Chelsea when they won the title with Kante at DM?
     
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  11. Zanjinho

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    Of course, you could apply the same logic to DM/HM players; they don't stand about watching the flair players do their stuff
     
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  12. BobbyD

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    Yea they concede 36 in 38. So pretty similar then.

    And 33/38 for contes title winning season.

    We are on par for contes winning season (if you are looking at stats) in a far more attacking formation than the 343
     
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  13. BobbyD

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    Yea keane got destroyed. However every time ive seen zouma recently (stoke plus everton) hes looked distinctly average or just ****
     
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  14. InBiscanWeTrust

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    You look a shambles at the back this year or at least you did for the first 10 games or so. Think it’s more through luck that good defending, City should have been about 5-0 up at HT for example but you kept a clean sheet.

    Just cos stats say defence is doing ok, doesn’t mean you are any better defensively with Jorginho who can’t defend as the last man instead of Kante
     
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  15. BobbyD

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    I do agree .we need kante as dm but its a delicate situation. We look vulnerable to the counter but thats mainly because we sarri is trying to make us press. If you do that you leave wide open spaces and massive gaps especially since alonso is so far forward and only rudiger is an aggressive solid defender. How many big chances are we conceding compared to previously? I imagine its a similar or less number even though its more frequent per attack

    Kante would be better defensively but jorginho theoretically is the one that will help us keep possession (the pep way having the ball means less attacks).

    You boys look less vulnerable this year because you arent playing it as quick (hence the less goals and attacks) and your cms tend to sit more rather than rushing up with a full press. This alongside vvd and and robbo who can get up and down.

    Sarri just needs to learn. its taken klopp 3 years and a superb cb to find this balance.
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Bar the journeyman

    And the lads with the pain in the neck from watching the ball fly over their heads towards a big donkey
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    If you watching we are pressing wide on full backs and only in creating areas. We hang round putting in a show when ball in central but the midfielders are 4 or 5 yards off thier men just following in when ball is played to their man but the second it goes wide we sprint at the men

    It's not just about vvd.
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    When the facts don't suit the narrative the lads get a wee bit annoyed.

    The real story with Chelsea is the inconsistency and lack of faith nin the no 9.
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Lfc....

    What's the real difference?

    Vvd?

    Allison?

    Or confidence and assuredness?

    You could tell for about 10 or 15 mins after alisson made that error recently that we were a bit shaken. But..... alisson just brushed it off like it never happened and we got back to business.

    In previous years it wasn't like the keeper would throw one in every game but there was little trust and any small error and we were on edge.

    For me the difference isnt just players. Klopp called it maturity. For me if we score... game over, we ain't conceding, we will get a second. We won't just give a side a chance they have to make it.

    Klopp wants angry and hungry, he means to really believe those 3 points are ours snd how dare any side steal them. Play angry means act like that side is stealing your food When you are starving.

    In May we didn't really believe. One foul by Ramos and we crumbled. Not karius but on salah and despite going in 1-1 at ht we didn't believe, not really.

    Right now I think we'd cream that Madrid team on the night.
     
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    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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