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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Jul 6, 2018.

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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Something must have happened between dyche and the owners regarding transfer money as their sacking announcement now seems to be going to be followed up by giving moyes a multi year deal.

    He must be absolutely laughing.
     
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  2. Zanjinho

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    Six games...
    Four wins...
    Two draws...
    Seven goals...
    Seven assists...

    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Mo Salah in December 2024 <applause>


    However...

    PL player of the month for December 2024....

    Isak

    As voted for by a panel of so called "experts"...

    <doh>

    #joke
     
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  3. Mark Blow

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    Grealish still looks shyte, even against Salford City.
     
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  4. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Restoring their title as Flat Track Bullies
     
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  5. Mark Blow

    Mark Blow Well-Known Member

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    All kicking off at the Emirates. Dalot sent off, dreadful dive by Havertz to get a penalty. Odegaard deservedly misses.
     
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    Why have both teams in an alternative strip?
    Same with Villa against Wham yesterday.
     
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  7. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    ManU are the away team, hence the Blue
    Arse aren't in a changed Strip. It's their home kit without the Red. It is for Anti-knife crime charities

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59907093
     
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  8. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    God I really hope Arsenal play like this against Spurs.

    Pedestrian at best.
    No Saka and Jesus either.

    ManU appear to be using lower league tactics now, Defend deep, throwing everything at the ball (suits Maguire) and hit them on the break.
    Seem to remember Mourinho being kicked out of the club for those type of tactics
     
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  9. Mark Blow

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    Captain Black for the chop at the end of the season?
     
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    At least the Utd keeper don’t move until the Arsenal players hit the balll. Raya was diving well before and making it too easy for the Utd penalty takers
     
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  11. RogerisontheHunt

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    Away at Plymouth next round
     
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  12. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Thug tactics too.

    Loads of yellows.

    Ref missed half what was going on. Ideal for utd and I expect arsenal fans are going mad now.
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    They should immediately drop oninny and get rid of the dodgy keeper.
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Honestly if that was another sport or from say i don't know, the far east you'd be checking how much was bet on this.
     
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  16. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    I just think Raya is proper **** on Pens. Didn't get close to any of them
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    With him.doing that you'd seriously wonder but in fairness to utd they struck all then pens well so clearly they were not breifed to just roll it in
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It's amazing how last year Arsenal's lack of a striker was seen as something people had to be wrong on despite them not winning anything.

    This year they are even further away but the silence on not having that strike force is deafening and if anything their players are getting a kicking for their own fans.

    Arsenal are a really good team but they have bought too many defenders without actually clearing out. They are now defense heavy and both midfield and attack light in terms of real options.

    Merino might settle in but he is not partey replacement or xhaka replacement.

    Rice isn't really a 6 either and can't do it all on his own.

    Havertz is havertz. He's not as bad as he was for Chelsea but he is a confidence player and neither a 9 nor a midfielder he is probably soem form of a 10 but he won't get the goals needed. A big man but not a striker.

    Saka has been over played and will pay for it later in career imo.

    Martinelli is a lot better than some arsenal fans give credit and is suffering as they've rarely given him support from lb recently (best year was with zinchenko) and is also a confidence player and young.

    Imo most teams would kill for odengaard, saka and martinelli and while they overpaid for rice he is decent too. Saliba is top class and Gabriel works OK with him.

    That's the basis for any title race but playing covered cbs at full back and having raya and havertz and merino in there will mean thry come up short. Add in injuries on top and it all implodes.

    Given they had 100mil+ nest spends and are one of the most expensively assembled squads they can't keep talking about following a plan all the time. They have gotten something wrong
     
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    They've gone from a decent free flowing team with a bit of 'know how' and dark arts sprinkled in, to a team that lacks ideas, and uses dark arts as a plan A to try and grab a goal from a dive & set piece and then running the clock down.

    If Arteta had gone to Bayern or something in the summer and their new manager was putting this out week after week the fans would be demanding he ****s off immediately. Arteta is getting a free ride here.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It looks like something that set in and will be hard to budget.

    Arteta has fallen in love with cbs at full back.

    The fact skelly has come in should help them over playing yet more cbs out of position.

    They have saliba, Gabriel, white, timber, kiwior and caliafori as senior and expensive cbs they have bought over time

    Thry have no rb any more as tomiasyu is injured but isnt good anyway.

    With white out now timber is the rb off of a sudden. He is also injured. So they've 3 out and partey there. No kid in the academy

    They now have zinchenko who they won't play and kiwior who they will no longer play and timber who is injured so skelly is in and doing well. Oh and let's not forget Tierney who plays 5mins then is out 6 month.

    That's simply too many defenders at too high a cost as arteta has seen pep do it and seemingly wants to follow rather than have full backs.

    Any rational person wanting to follow this style would see that narrow full backs are really midfielders anyway so you should be converting midfielders to full backs for their passing ability and bit of pace rather than cbs who can't pass or cross as well as others.

    In any event the problem rolls on for arsenal.

    Jorignho, rice, merino, partey as the cms for the deeper roles. Two of them are almost out the door, one is injured and the other trying to settle

    Roll on to attacking cms and you've odengaard and the exciting nwaneri but also havertez and Vieira (both of whom.i never understood why they bought and flogged smith rowe)

    Then lw where martinelli is suffering from not having an lb partner and trossard as reserve.

    Then rw where saka had no competition so they loaned sterling who is woeful now.

    Then striker where jesus is never fit so havertz plays.

    Their best team was

    Ramsgate
    White saliba Gabriel zinchenko
    Xhaka partey
    Saka odengaard martinelli
    Jesus

    And they had a great 6 months before blowing up and city caught them.

    Last year I felt havertz was the wrong buy to propel them on and this year only reinforces it. He's done well but not well enough as a striker would have.

    I compare this to what slot as done with klopps group.

    He's got two right fulls.(cos us zero)
    He's got two left fulls ( ot brilliant but two)
    He's got 4 cbs and no more.
    He's got no 6 but has gravenberch and maccallister playing as a double point and two he refuses to use in a real game in morton and endo
    He's got 3 10s in Szoboszlai jones and Elliott even if he uses jones more flexibly again not brilliant but good.
    He's got 2 lw in his head in gakpo and Diaz and has lifted gakpos gsme.massively
    He's got one rw and then chiesa which is an issue
    He's got 2 strikers even if one is glass and the other can't hit the target.

    The squad is more balanced so players can come in and out. They are more obviously suited to doing so.

    Lfc have been fairly lucky with injuries. If we lost salah to injury or macallister has a broken toe. Oh oh
     
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