There aren't many professions where young people are at the top of their game and have star status before they're mature enough to deal with it. Sport and popular music are obvious ones, which is why a high proportion of people in those fields go off the rails spectacularly. At least in sport they have oversight by people with a vested interest in keeping them grounded, but obviously it's not enough for some.
Massive dive by Kane for the pen. Slightest if fingertips on his shin and hes already down before the contact. not sure that contact is enough to make all your legs completely give way either.
If you are saint Harry in England it is. Can't be sent off, can't be inconvenienced by things like offside or rules for diving.
I thought that but general consensus was pen from everyone so thought I was imagining it The other thing was the reaction commentator was banging on about Looked like Pickford got a knee in side of head I thought that’s why he put his head down lol to try and influence ref he was hurt but hey ho lmao
Yeah commentators talk load of crap. His head was down cos he got clattered in the head. Nothing to do with being guilty..
Same. I used to get stick on here for criticising Gerrard for going down too easy. Trouble is, referees don't give a foul unless a player goes down nowadays.
Just seen it, not sure Pickford even touches him. Referee giving it I understand because of the angle but VAR should be saying no
VAR has been poor. The slightest of touches in the box (or no touch at all) being given as pen’s….the handball rule is not clear and not even picking up a potential offside due to camera angle….is shocking. Have to ask then, what purpose it it serving other than to slow the game down and make the officials totally pointless.
Well it doesn't make the officials.pointless. It's all.politics. the fa have handed var to refs to run to back refs. Not to get decisions right. So if a ref makes a call it absolutely has to be a howler for var to even look. If the manc ref today reffing a manc team against us gives them 4 pens not one will even be looked at, but if he ignores 4 pens for us including an assault they will search for reasons to back him Simple as.
I'm not sure I understand this sentence. Do you mean the FA have put refs in charge of VAR? If so, who else could they put in charge of it?
I wrote it terribly yes. The fs have handed the running of var over to referees who sit in the box and make calls so it's inevitably a quid pro quo situation. Each ref on var knows that the guy on the park will be their var guy eventually and vice versa. Its absolutely inevitable they will have their mates back first and foremost as they will want their mate to have theirs. It's not assist a ref to get to a good decision, it's about backing whatever call he's made. In England refs HATE to be asked to look again. All they want is to be given a thumbs up. The funny thing in it is offside, it's like the refs have forgotten they were linos in the past and those calls are over turned with abandon.
Thanks for clearing that up. But I ask again, who else could they put in charge? The VAR decision-maker has to be a qualified ref in order to understand the rules. Unless you had two sets of officials - on-pitch and in the studio, and somehow never allowed them to mingle, they're always going to be drawn from the same group. Even if there were two sets (a daft idea obviously) there would still be resentment from the pitch ref at being over-ridden. I don't know how long it's going to take before people admit that they were wrong, and the system is just not up to the task expected of it. It's not the all-seeing eye and independent arbiter of justice it was touted as.
If they're "budding up" to protect each other then the simple solution is split them in two. Both groups of officials but one is the on pitch team with the other being VAR team. Reality is, by "protecting each other" they're actually damaging each other
Why not copy rugby who seem to have a better system. One of the big problems is the attitude towards refs, they are infallible, you mustn’t question any decision, they are beyond reproach. Well last week versus Arsenal was a good example of how bad the system is in football. This rubbish of not using VAR unless the referee has made an obvious mistake, well he made three glaring mistakes that cost us the match, one offside and two pens called wrong
That they need is to change the culture. The ref is in charge right? That's what fifa want to emphasise anyway. So we need to see refs stop waving way stuff they think is a dive (and not giving yellows) or stop blowing and pointing to spot I'd want to see the ref call for video and look at said video then explain his decision out loud for the world to hear. I'd want reviews given to each manager to prevent bad refs refusing to consider evidence. Said review would need to go to 4th official and said official at the game must explain his decision out loud the the whole world. Rugby works this system all the time where the officials work together and can be heard mulling over what the rule is and what the evidence shows and frankly it does come down to opinion but its usually a considered opinion after weighing all things. Football has the unique issue of setting itself up for failure by allowing some contact around the park but then different standards apply in the pen area. I personally think we need the explanation of why something is not a pen or is a pen cos that would at least drive consistency
