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  1. saintKlopp

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    In my opinion you have to be crazy to do it in the first place - never mind afterwards.
     
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  2. sadiosalah

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    let’s assume that heading the ball can’t be banned as it will change the nature of football.

    The injury is suspected to be associated with cumulative exposures. If this is true and if Health and safety principles are applied (shock horror!!) then we may have to monitor the number of times players head the ball during each match. May be we will have a player being allowed a monthly quota . Once it’s reached the manager will rest him until he starts a new quota. So that no player heads the ball more than x times over a fixed period and over his career. In theory the brain is thus allowed to recover by having periods free of ball heading

    Don’t laugh as this could well be the way forward if the link between dementia and heading the ball is epidemiologically proven.
     
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  3. johnsonsbaby

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    Rather worryingly, just one instance of loss of consciousness through a blow to the head alters the brain and is a predisposition for development of dementia. I hope Jimenez gets all the help and treatment he needs and has regular check ups following this.
     
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  4. Zanjinho

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    Come again? <confused>
     
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  5. saintKlopp

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    I said, "If I was Greez I'd expect you to do a thread on it".
     
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  6. Tobes

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    Just LOL.
     
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  7. Libby

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    That's completely mental and would lead to all sorts of gamesmanship. Not happening.
     
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  8. sadiosalah

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    Agree on mental but...

    Let’s assume that the proposed investigation or study into the link with dementia shows a clear association between heading the ball and the disease. What do the authorities do? Ignore the findings? Once it is known it cannot be unknown or ignored. Think of all the possible options that could be suggested. And you’ll find that this is not that outlandish. Better than outlawing heading the ball.
     
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  9. johnsonsbaby

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    I think if a link is found to be definitive then the onus is really on the individual and whether or not he thinks taking up the sport is worth the risk, much like boxing. I don't think that something that's part and parcel of the sport can just be lifted out of it.
     
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    Then people make their own choices. All contact sport is going to have an element of risk.

    You don't ban motor racing cos of the chances of injury from a crash, nor boxing or mma as others have mentioned despite them literally taking blows to the head.

    I wouldn't be against raising the age where kids shouldn't head the ball regularly though.
     
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  11. sadiosalah

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    Head gear? Like in amateur boxing, with the risks of concussions well known.
     
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    And I asked you if you'd come again :bandit:
     
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    that was exactly my point. I am not saying banning football,not even heading. Every sport has a duty to mitigate the risks. Motorsport have improved their cars structures against collisions, rugby has time outs etc, boxing reduced the maximum number of rounds and amateur boxing have headgears and avoid having knock outs. What would football do? Honestly doing nothing would not be an option, with all the medical groups and others putting pressure on. Head gears could be an option (why not? We have foot wear!!).

    in any case, it’s all conjecture now and we’ll revisit this subject I’m sure in a few years.
     
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    Any study into dementia and football now, is out of date though, for the prime reason mentioned earlier - the huge difference in the weight of the ball in the last 30/40 years.

    No idea why you’ve gone down this rabbit hole anyway, given that last night’s incident was due to a clash of heads.
     
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    Not correct. They have current stats as to the effect on the brain with a modern football and they know that persistent heading of the ball causes trauma. It’s just not comparable to anything 40 years ago for the reason you point out and that modern analysis is just better.
     
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    How can anyone assert that the minimal trauma from heading a modern football is definitively going to cause dementia in 30 or 40 years time?
     
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  18. RogerisontheHunt

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    Schmeichel goes up for a corner, Leicester **** up it up and Fulham have an empty net to shoot at. Fulham cock it up, taking too long to shoot and ball goes out for a Fulham corner.

    Lucky for Fulham it didn't cost them anything.
    Leicester 1-2 Fulham ft
     
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    FA Cup draw

    Away vs Aston Villa

    <doh> **** sake

    Chelsea get Moreambe at Home
    Citeh vs Birmingham (again at home)
    Spurs away to Marine
    Man U home against Watford
    Everton home vs Rotherham

    And people wonder why we think its fixed
     
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  20. saintKlopp

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    We're still second then. <party>
     
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