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Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

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  1. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    You've missed the point entirely. That period which started in 2004 was a watershed moment and every club that had money and I include United in that, then bankrolled the same spending from that point onwards on an unprecedented scale. The £80m on Ronaldo, the £90m on Pogba, £130m on Coutinho, £90m on Bale is simply a continuation of that and ultimately why we are where we are today. It's glitz that's all. And a big part of what a super league is all about.
     
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  2. Treble

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    And an ethos of manufacturing a product which attracts a global market rather than building a football club. Which is what the Super League is all about (the former I mean not the latter).
     
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  3. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Sorry I should have consulted the expert before I read what was stated in the press again. I bow to your expert knowledge rather than the press...

    How about from now on, I’ll assume you know best and any opinion I put on here you can just ignore?
     
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  4. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    This is from the press which obviously know nothing rather than Tobes so it’s probably wrong but...


    What does this mean for the Premier League?

    Whereas proposals in the past for a European Super League threatened to breakaway from existing domestic leagues, European Premier League plans have been designed to work alongside competitions such as the Premier League.
    Instead of forming a breakaway league, fixtures will be played in existing midweek slots that are currently occupied by the UEFA Champions League. It means a Premier League club could honour their European Premier League commitments during the week, while fulfilling their domestic schedule at the weekend.
     
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  5. Tobes

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    All you have to do is merely engage your brain and use something called maths.

    It’s really not complicated.
     
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  6. Tobes

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    Wanna buy a bridge?
     
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  7. Bumps

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    Yep and I agree with the sentiment but unfortunately i don’t see how you manage it as there will always be a loophole and someone will always exploit it so it’s pointless to me to even use it as a factor

    the period Treble refers to was strangely utd in their pomp when they were spending big money then Chelsea came along and latterly city. as we all know money does not guarantee success it just makes the route a bit easier

    Also a small rural club has very little chance of emulating that of a big city so the playing field is never level imho

    I just don’t see the point in complaining (not anyone in particular) about how Chelsea got their money or how barca etc

    it is time to vote with feet - for myself personally I don’t think I can stomach a 4.6billion pound competition whilst many others go to the wall and this will probably be my line.

    I am already into this way deeper than I wanted to be and it just an opinion - I don’t even know if I have articulated it correctly -
    I am off for tea :)
     
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  8. Bumps

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    I get what you are saying I just don’t agree that’s all as I stated earlier going right back to Trevor Francis this was always coming
    You either get on board or get off the train imho
    I think I am getting to the latter (very sadly :( )
     
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  9. Treble

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    I don't think we'll agree. Maybe it was always coming but I think a combination of 'new money' and the wholesale privatisation of football broadcasting has combined to make it a possible reality.
     
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    Even if it came in what happens if a team that joins then becomes a mid table team in their own league, or as has occurred in the past to Utd gets relegated. With no relegation from the Euro league it would not represent the best in Europe, It is just a big boys club and would get very boring pretty quick.
     
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  11. Tobes

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    Indeed, which is why the discussion is moot, as the FA & PL would never sanction it, so any club who fancied it would have to make a choice, as competing in 2 full time leagues concurrently is simply not feasible. But a Sky sports article with an unnamed source or something.
     
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    The PL have failed in their duty of care by allowing Pickford's assault to go unchallenged.

    All the European PL would need to do is say it puts player safety above the ego of referees and LFC would be legally bound to give preference to European PL fixtures over English PL fixtures. The insurance industry would back their call and so the financial argument would be unquestionable.

    The European PL grows and the English PL decays as a second rate tournament for reserve teams led by the U18 manager, like LFC in the League Cup vs Club World Cup last season.
     
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  13. Tobes

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    What do you get out of this? I mean seriously, what do think this achieves like? Or do you just get some sort of weird satisfaction from it?

    I’ve had some decent discussions with posters on this board lately and even on the derby thread there was no tiresome bollocks.
     
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  14. Treble

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    I know you're not being serious anyway, but "legally bound"?
     
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  15. astro

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    Liverpool's medical insurance contracts for their players would be invalidated if it could be shown they knowingly exposed high-value players to fixtures refereed by sub-standard officials.

    The medical insurance industry will exploit any loophole they can. So LFC would be best to avoid giving them that chance when PGMOL referees are excluded from major international tournaments because of their low quality.
     
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  16. O'l Gravy Leg.

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    People still angry over the Derby I take it?

    TBH I punched my desk when I heard about the length of the layoff for VVD, other than that, it's standard fare for the refs to be ****ing up nailed on decisions, though with less excuse for it now it can be a little bit more annoying.

    City had the injuries last season to contend with, this year its our turn
     
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  17. Treble

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    Has this ever happened before?
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

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    bar we already do? groups of 4 = 6 games plus whatever if you are any good, call it 10 games.

    Its clear that the money is talking.

    currently 38 league games, there would be 34 if it was 18 teams.

    Add in a european league and you are then adding 34 more games = 68.

    Already that is IMO excessive before a post season tournament is discussed.

    No room for Fa cup certainly no room for league cup.

    IMO its a non runner with 18 teams straight up.

    Its a kite flying exercise that will end up as 2 leagues of 10 giving 18 games per team with a big post season tournament modelled on the end of this years CL but in Dubai or some such. 34+ 18 = 52 games which is more realistic.
     
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  19. Tobes

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    To win the CL you play 13 games, to win this proposed league it’d be 34 league games plus the proposal has top 8 in a play off, which assuming they are 1 legged affairs would make it 37.

    It’s completely unfeasible unless teams played a 2nd string in the majority of their domestic league games. Which would completely devalue the PL and they’d never wear it, let alone UEFA and the FA.

    The expansion of the CL which would come about in 2024, has a proposal that the number of potential games for the winners expanded by 4, so from 13 to 17.

    This proposal is absolute nads, and no one is even claiming any responsibility for it. It goes the same way as Project big picture i.e. the bin.
     
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  20. Zanjinho

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    What if the European PL only saw teams play each other once at a neutral venue? From thirteen to seventeen doesn't seem such a big jump.

    Just throwing thoughts into the ring...
     
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