Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

It’s not just two clubs is it. I believe Chelsea and spurs were involved as well

 

The EFL has FFP rules though, but like all FFP it doesn’t completely stop owners investing in their business.

As for the stadium subsidies, yeah take £50m a year off the lower PL clubs and give a bundle of it to Spurs and Liverpool to cover their already spent money. Sounds fair that like. Oh but we’ll give a few £M to a L1 side so it’s altruistic honest. Come on mate ffs.

 

No it was 2 clubs - Liverpool and United. The others in the ‘big 6’ were apparently briefed last Thursday and their complete silence and not putting their names to this is noted....

 

They're isn't an all powerful bottom six though. In fact, when was the last time the same six clubs were at the bottom?

It can't even be the same bottom six from season to season, at best it could only be six of nine in rotation because of relegation.

The top six are the top six. Yes, another club potential break in to that bracket but the idea of six votes from the controlling nine top clubs kind kills that off regardless.

This proposal is about power. Keeping the top at the top and screwing over the little guy (unless they can do a Man City)

 

Basing the supposed need to change the voting arrangements on the premise of what the clubs at the bottom of the league might have done last season, in a vote that never happened and was never even on the PL agenda is a bit rich like.

 

It doesn't need to be the same bottom 6 though. If the voting stays at 14/6 and a similar situation arises - highly unlikely - then the lower teams ie those with most to lose have all the power. It's the opposite side of the same coin. Those with most to lose shouldn't have all the power just like those with most to gain shouldn't have all the power. What's being proposed is very wrong, almost immoral. I do think though that a change to a majority vote is a fairer way. The rest of the league shouldn't be held hostage to a decision making process that can work against the good of all.

I think we are in agreement on what's happening here overall.

 

People like Jimmy and Astro seem to forget that their fan base has been waiting desperately for 30 years to win the English top division. They have won "Europe" a couple of times whilst waiting but it wasn't enough because being the best in England is what they (and all other supporters) want for their team more than anything else.
Yes they could form a mini elite European league but how would that be different than the CL? Every supporter in every country wants their team to be the best in that country everything else comes second.

 

I don’t think there’s any real desire to see a European super league as an alternative to the domestic league amongst fans of any of the supposed ‘big 6’.

I don’t think their clubs want it either tbh, they want both. An extended CL in addition to a domestic league. In order for them to fill their coffers with this, the entire league has to be compromised in order to free up the game slots, that seems to be the message imo.

Their argument that the ‘big clubs’ deserve a bigger slice of the TV cake as they’re the reason for the leagues success as opposed to the competitiveness of the league and the nature of English football itself, is a beauty, given in the last few weeks we’ve seen City hammered 5-2 at home by Leicester, United done 6-1 at home by Spurs and Villa humiliated their own club 7-2 ffs

 

It is not coincidence that the prime movers of this move are the owners of my club and MU. They are basically in the business of maximising the money they can extract from their clubs. The owners of Chelsea, and City have also got their unpleasant agendas but they pump money into their clubs and they do it for other reasons.

I suspect if this opportunistic sinister power grab is going to fail it would be through everyone fans, media, politicians kicking up a stink and the powerful oil billionaires of City and Chelsea not wanting anything to do with the bad publicity and smell coming out of this manoeuvre. They after all do not need that extra cash.

 

It's going to fail because it won't get the 14 votes that are required. End of.

It needed the 3 additional clubs to support it to have a chance and West Ham have scuppered that already.

 

It’s already dead mate. No way this is a happening, but yeah I agree with the rest. Neither of the 2 sets of owners who have pushed for this have put a bean into their clubs. The Glazers literally got the club to pay for their purchase of it, so that sums up their mindset.

 

I think this as a inevitable long term game plan; clubs selling their own TV rights.

The two clubs that stand to make the most from this are Liverpool and Man Utd because they've got the biggest global following.

Man City would make a mint too when their owners inevitably pay for their own channel.

As I said earlier, it's greed driven.

 

It needed twelve more clubs to support it to get fourteen. The other clubs have rightly told (or reportedly will be telling) Liverpool & Man Utd to **** off.

 

Interesting that Parry refused to deny that he'd advised clubs to rejoin the FL if they couldn't pass it. Not that I could see that happening, or even how it'd work for that matter, but it's something that could potentially be used as a threat.

 

Not heard about that

 

Reported by the Athletic:

 

No article, just Twitter?

Can't say I'd be surprised if Parry said that though tbh

 

Ornstein is a pretty respected journalist iirc - think there is an article linked but behind a paywall.

 

Never liked Parry, he's got an 'untrustworthy' vibe about him

 

It formed part of this proposal. Clubs would be able to sell the rights to 8 of their games over the season independently.

When the next TV deal came around they’d have demanded and voted for an even bigger slice of the cake & likely more games to be allowed to be sold via them.