Because they did not cooperate with the UEFA inquiry but CAS reduced the fine from 30m Euros to 10m .
not quite as CAS overturned the ban because they found EUFA had not proven the financial doping allegations the non cooperation was covered by fines by both EUFA & CAS .
Nope, if it was only for non-cooperation then CAS wouldn't need to make reference to "time barred" accusations.
The evidence was too old and 'inconclusive' The non-cooperation ensured that Uefa didn't have the relevant evidence to prove recent doping Which is hardly like saying innocent.
It's proven that if you want to break FFP all you need to do is refuse to speak to UEFA and add in a £10m non-cooperation fee as a cost of doing business.
The entire case was built on stolen emails that had no complete context. They had literally nothing but that, it was always doomed to failure.
No their case was built on the fact that proven FFP cheats had been proven to have not stopped cheating FFP after they had already been caught and punished once for it. They got off on a technicality due to poor professionalism by UEFA. You must think OJ was innocent and Epstein killed himself.
Agreed that Uefa are **** ups, but this still does not make City innocent. Why hide the relevant information when uefa asked for it if they had nothing to hide. Something about smoke and fire comes to mind. All thats happened today is proved that clubs are now more powerful than the governing body
Hold on, you thought the UEFA were more powerful than the clubs at one point. FFP was introduced to stop the top 16 teams in Europe forming a super league, (by a corrupt plattini) It is not stopping clubs going bust, spending above their means in the slightest
Non-cooperation implies they have something to hide. Like 'no comment'. It stinks! So does moving my thread - again! I'm not surprised about that, either!
I’ve never said they were innocent by the rules UEFA have installed. City initially refused to cooperate as they argued that the case was based on nothing more than a targeted hack and they expressed their complete mistrust in the process. When they did submit their detailed defence UEFA chose not to consider it. What’s happened today is that UEFA have been made to look like a set of inept clowns. Personally I wanted City to lose today, so that they’d take the entire FFP premise to the civil courts and expose it for what it actually is.
So, in short, we know they're guilty as **** but the evidence was dated? Therefore, they need to be careful going forward?
you said CAS have overturned the ban as it was imposed due to UEFA claiming City didn’t cooperate fully with the investigation .
And? "not appropriate to impose a ban on participating in Uefa's club competitions" for the lesser charge of "obstructing the CFCB's investigations".
Well this is a shambles for everyone except for City. In my opinion ( I realise that others disagree), it's awful for the league in that nothing's stopping rich owners buying left right centre and fidling the finances through sponsorships. 1.2billion net spend since 2008 cannot simply be covered through legit sponsorships and other incomes when you factor in other expenditures. There should be a pathway for clubs to rise, but it shouldn't be an instant money-influx like Chelsea and City were able to do. That just screws over clubs who didn't win the owner lottery and are running within their means. This however is an argument for another day and one which has been done to death too. Awful for UEFA who have had a club blatently obstruct an investigation and had virtually no reprocussions for doing so. Awful for FFP which is now proven to be a farce with no actual substance. "insufficient conclusive evidence" rather than no evidence, some evidence being over 5 years old so dismissable and a club who didn't cooperate - hardly the hallmarks of a club with nothing to hide. Basically just shows that from top to bottom, FFP is either inept or powerless. Take your pick.
your full post which i replied to No. CAS have overturned the ban as it was imposed due to UEFA claiming City didn’t cooperate fully with the investigation and not because they had definitive proof of guilt, the fine imposed for that remains, but the ban was removed. I can't be expected to know what clarifications you will post later apology accepted .
I’ve literally no idea what the **** you are on about, there was no ‘clarification’ it’s literally the same thing
FFP was a power push by the established clubs like United, Barca, Real, Juve etc to keep the CL a closed shop and prevent City/Chelsea moving to the top of European football - all under the threat of a super league. Platini was corrupt - proven and also his FFP is the same.
