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RDBD has kindly posted the latest pundit predictions. It's interesting how the tendency of Spurs fans to be miserable bastards dovetails with the belief of old PL hands (most with Man U and Liverpool backgrounds) that the normal order is bound to be restored.

Spurs scored the most goals and yielded the fewest last year, while 4/4 of our key attacking players should be a year better. We've lost one player who may or may not have been first choice. Our last three finishes have been fifth, third and second. If only there was a trend there. Wembley is the X factor, but we ought to be in the title race for the third season in a row.

It's also interesting to review my predictions for last year. My problem was that I was dead wrong about the three teams I dislike most. Arsenal and West Ham were much worse than I predicted, and Chelsea were much better. On the other hand, I was nearly right about Spurs (first), Liverpool (third), City (fourth) and Man U (sixth).
 
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All they do is follow the money, if that worked City would win the league every year with Chelsea as runners up. Their predictions are of little interest as far as I am concerned.
 
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redwhiteandermblue said:
Spurs scored the most goals and yielded the fewest last year, while 4/4 of our key attacking players should be a year better.
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Spurs have had over the past two seasons :

1. 1st/2nd best GF
2. Best GA
3. Best GD
4. PL top scorer

Which of the above do the pundits believe are going to decisively wilt
this season to deny Spurs a CL place via the PL ??
 
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The RDBD said:
Spurs have had over the past two seasons :

1. 1st/2nd best GF
2. Best GA
3. Best GD
4. PL top scorer

Which of the above do the pundits believe are going to decisively wilt
this season to deny Spurs a CL place via the PL ??
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As banks tell you, past performance should not be relied upon as an indicator of future performance.
Pundits assume that the big money spending will improve the big spenders.
Spurs have not spent at all and have a squad which could be tested if there are injuries to key players.
I don't think you would expect the pundits to go against the populist view that the final table will mirror the money table.
None of us are good pundits otherwise we would have foreseen Leicester winning the league with the previous year's champions dropping to 10th before climbing back to the top again.
The pundits - and the bookies too for that matter- assume every year that the clubs who can afford to buy a larger number of better players and have the biggest squads will, on balance, prevail.
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
As banks tell you, past performance should not be relied upon as an indicator of future performance.
Pundits assume that the big money spending will improve the big spenders.
Spurs have not spent at all and have a squad which could be tested if there are injuries to key players.
I don't think you would expect the pundits to go against the populist view that the final table will mirror the money table.
None of us are good pundits otherwise we would have foreseen Leicester winning the league with the previous year's champions dropping to 10th before climbing back to the top again.
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1. Yet they do use "past performance" as an indicator.

2. The "money table" has also not correctly predicted the
positions, however you wish to measure the degree of spend.

3. If a "pundit" cannot go against the "populist view" based on their
knowledge, then they should not offer any opinions on the final
placings.

4. No expert in any field consistently predicts "black swan" events
(which is what the Leicester PL win was) , if at all.
 
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Top 6 PL
Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Utd, Pool, City

FA Cup
Pool

Champions League
Real

League Cup
Spurs

UEFA cup
Inter

Relegation from PL
Swansea, Huddersfield, Brighton

Top goal scorer
Harry

Player of the year
Eriksen

Young player of the year
Dele

Surprise Team
Spurs - Everyone writing us of due to Wembley and lack of signings but think we'll finish top 4 and win a trophy.
 
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The RDBD said:
1. Yet they do use "past performance" as an indicator.

2. The "money table" has also not correctly predicted the
positions, however you wish to measure the degree of spend.

3. If a "pundit" cannot go against the "populist view" based on their
knowledge, then they should not offer any opinions on the final
placings.

4. No expert in any field consistently predicts "black swan" events
(which is what the Leicester PL win was) , if at all.
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Spot on
 
Spurf said:
Spot on
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If a "pundit" says I cannot really say based on my knowledge, so I am
going purely on summer spend etc, then I would be disappointed
that they have no deeper insights into making their prediction, but
hardly a sacking offence eh.
 
Top 6 PL
Spurs, Citeh, Utd, Chavs, l'arse, Everton
FA Cup: Leicester
Champions League: Munich
League Cup: Brighton
UEFA cup : l'arse
Relegation from PL: Spammers, Watford, Huddersfield
Top goal scorer: Harry Kane
Player of the year: Harry Kane
Young player of the year: Harry Winks
Surprise Team: Brighton.
 
I also predict that Spurs will appear at Wembley more than any other team in the UK this coming season. If we reach either of the cup finals we will be playing at 'home'.
 
They did a study which revealed predicting today would be just like yesterday was a better weather forecast than any other. If you had to predict what will be the richest country in the world next year, you'd be well advised to pick the one that's richest this year.

It's the fact that pundits don't value continuity that I find so baffling. The best way to get really good is to gather a group of young players and let them improve together. Buying players is a crap shoot by comparison.

Yet, strangely, see my sig, and now again this year, most pundits predict the team which scored the most goals and gave up the fewest will drop out of the top four. Even more strangely, no one seems to understand that athletes improve up to a certain age--28 or so--then decline. If they did, surely they would understand that Spurs are more likely to improve than decline. The reasoning weighs buying in the transfer window and, perhaps, the fond belief that Spurs ought to decline in order to restore the natural order of things more heavily.
 
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Top 6 PL
City, Chelsea, United, Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool.

FA Cup
United

Champions League
RM

League Cup
Liverpool

UEFA cup
Inter

Relegation from PL
Watford, Huddersfield, Brighton

Top goal scorer
Kane

Player of the year
De Bruyne

Young player of the year
Dele

Surprise Team
West Brom
 
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Guys, surely putting the teams "in order" is the point of this. Guessing the top 6 but not in this order is simple. Alright we have to decide if Everton will get in and if so instead of who, otherwise it's a simple prediction.
 
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redwhiteandermblue said:
The two teams I think have the best shot other than Spurs are the ones coming into the season with lineups that established they could score last season: City and Liverpool. Points come from goals, as Liverpool showed when they finished second with Suarez despite crap defending. Getting a team together enough they can score is a challenge. Chelsea now that they're without Costa, Man U w

They did a study which revealed predicting today would be just like yesterday was a better weather forecast than any other. If you had to predict what will be the richest country in the world next year, you'd be well advised to pick the one that's richest this year.

It's the fact that pundits don't value continuity that I find so baffling. The best way to get really good is to gather a group of young players and let them improve together. Buying players is a crap shoot by comparison.

Yet, strangely, see my sig, and now again this year, most pundits predict the team which scored the most goals and gave up the fewest will drop out of the top four. Even more strangely, no one seems to understand that athletes improve up to a certain age--28 or so--then decline. If they did, surely they would understand that Spurs are more likely to improve than decline. The reasoning weighs buying in the transfer window and, perhaps, the fond belief that Spurs ought to decline in order to restore the natural order of things more heavily.
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You don't have to very bright to be a football pundit. Ex footballers have spent their adult life conforming to team rules suppressing any ability to think for themselves. If you want individual thinking then not606 is a better bet than a media that thrives on conformity and appealing to the most common denominator.
 
remembercolinlee said:
Top 6 PL
LIVERPOOL
LIVERPOOL
LIVERPOOL
LIVERPOOL
LIVERPOOL
LIVERPOOL

FA Cup
LIVERPOOL

Champions League
LIVERPOOL

League Cup
LIVERPOOL

UEFA cup
LIVERPOOL

Relegation from PL
MAN UTD
MAN UTD
EVERTON

Top goal scorer
LIVERPOOL PLAYERS

Player of the year
LIVERPOOL PLAYERS

Young player of the year
LIVERPOOL PLAYERS

Surprise Team
LIVERPOOL

Next year has finally arrived
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<laugh>
 
Man ure
Man €ITY
SPURS
CHELSKI
GOONS
MOUSERS

Fa cup spurs
League cup chelski
Champs league real Madrid
Europa inter

Relegation Swansea Huddersfield Brighton

Top g/scorer kane
Player of the year dele
Young player 40 winks
Surprise team Bournemouth (defoe second top scorer behind our harry)
 
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The RDBD said:
We are nearly ready, rwaeb ... :)

I will not be surprised in the slightest if McNumpty
does a classic hack cop-out on Spurs (oops, too late) .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40816204
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If any of our posters had written what McNumpty had written I would not be impressed so I am even less impressed when someone who writes about football for a living shows such a lack of imagination. Spurs will come 6th but I may be wrong. Just **** off McDumbo you are a bore.
 
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