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Possible compromise with the Allams?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by dazzar86, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. East_Stand_Always

    East_Stand_Always Active Member

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    I was thinking along the likes of a 'Tigers' franchise, yes it would take work and the club needs to be successful but its possible. As I said emotionally I am not in favor, I don't like it, but I don't think the Allams are stupid either. They have some ideas clearly and I think they should be given the opportunity to take those forwards.

    We lost the AFC. That's slimmed down isn't it?
     
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  2. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    Hull City AFC
    Hull City Tigers

    Which is slimmer?
     
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  3. East_Stand_Always

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    I was thinking more Hull City AFC 'The Tigers' v Hull City Tigers
     
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  4. DMD

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    There's no empirical or logical evidence to suggest it'll be a success. There's evidence already that it's a failure in profile raising.

    HullCityTigers, or even Hull Tigers is the name they're going for, it's longer than either Hull or Hull City, or Hull City AFC or The Tigers
     
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  5. Robo

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    1. Overseas markets, lets face it the fans do not pay for all the upkeep of the club and players do they?
    2. Slimmed down from Hull City A.F.C or Hull City Tigers or The Tigers or any other version to Hull City Tigers, therefore one global name and it does not change our history one iota, however I am sure some will argue the point just for the sake of arguing.
     
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  6. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    We're not called Hull City AFC 'The Tigers'. We're called Hull City AFC, our nickname is "The Tigers" not "Tigers"
     
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  7. DMD

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    Of course I'll argue a point if I have a different view. You only ever post contrary views. <laugh>

    Show me some evidence that a football team changing it's name brings income and success. So far it's brought universal ridicule and a dip in sales.

    There isn't one global name propsed, and each of the names offered are longer than those we already use.
     
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  8. kccircle

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    So come on then DMD - play devils advocate for once and put some spin on what the Allems will gain from the move.
     
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  9. DMD

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    I said earlier on what I thought it was about, and it's precious little to do with profile raising and more to do with local issues.

    I'm still waiting for someone to show how this will generate income. Despite all the words posted and the times it's been asked, I've yet to see any logical argument to justify it.
     
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  10. kccircle

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    I don't get the local issues argument.

    I don't live anywhere near Hull though so perhaps that counts for this. I know the spat between the Allems and the council but don't believe for one single moment these are linked
     
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  11. DMD

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    There does some to be something of a pattern, not totally, but many of those against are local with the more apathetic being more remote from Hull.

    My opinion (and that's all that it is) is based on a number of different factors, some not football related, some second hand.
     
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  12. Robo

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    Show me the dip in sales figures, did it not bring an Asian sponsor on board?
    The tigers name is big in Asia apparently.
    Like I said on another posting I know 10 people around me who don't think the name change matters that much as our history will not be changed or dissapear
     
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  13. kccircle

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    What happens if, because of this name change, we strike up a new sponsor in Tiger beer or with some other far eastern company that injects millions into the coffers.

    Personally, I'm not bothered in the slightest at the dropping of the AFC - I'd rather we were Hull City, (The Tigers) but in reality i'm all a bit 'meh' with all of this. Again, I'm an exile who only comes back to see an odd game and to see my mother
     
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  14. DMD

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    Which Asain sponsor? If you mean Sbobet, we're one of a number where they've taken the betting concession. Nothing to do with the name change.

    The dip in sales is predicted from the number of people wanting nothing to do with it. Nationally and internationally it's a joke, so I can't see it causing a stampede at a time when sales should increase without any effort.

    But that's back to front, where is the extra income coming from generated by the name change?
     
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  15. DMD

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    Tiger beer would come on board if we were Hull City AFC the Tigers, as long as the deal was right. Playing "what if" is just nonsense though, this decision is seemingly based on facts...
     
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  16. kccircle

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    You're right - it would be good to see the facts. What was said on the Allem interview on the wireless tonight - any more light shed on it?
     
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  17. DMD

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    Nothing new, apart from Mr Allam thinks Hull City Tigers is punchier because it's all one word, like Coca Cola and Pepsi Cola. Hardly reassuring.
     
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  18. RicardoHCAFC

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    Cola is too common, Pepsi should drop it from their branding, and then I guess Coca-Cola can keep it as it'll be less common.
     
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  19. Stuart Blampey

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    I'm not sure I follow Dr Allam's reasoning on this name change

    If he was running Manchester United FC, would he legally re-register them as "Man United", as short is beautiful?

    Would he consider 'Salford' as differentiation from Man City?

    As for the 'AFC' amendment, will be dropping the Ltd from 'Allam Marine Ltd'- after all his customers don't used the 'Ltd'.

    Someone need to tell him and all the gutless sycophants who 'can't see what the problem is' that we are HULL CITY AFC, and our nickname is the 'TIGERS'.

    Was, is, and always will be.
     
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  20. RicardoHCAFC

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    He's probably love to, but it's a legal requirement unless he turns it into a Plc or becomes personally responsible for the finances by becoming a sole trader/forming a partnership with the other owners.
     
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