Positivity / Negativity

Thats the problem though Dai isnt it, having a different view is what stimulates debate, everyone agreeing about the same things means the forum is not worth bothering with, whats the point of preaching to the converted every day?

Unfortunatly sometimes people on here think that if you are objective you are a non-beleiver of everything Swansea, that is just not true. Being singled out and insulted for having a different viewpoint is what will eventully kill healthy banter and debate, many of the sheep will be too frightened to stray from the flock or some just wont bother joining the flock in the first place,Dragon gets this and so do many others.

Nothing wrong with disagreement at all,but there is a lack of respect creeping onto the board once more and i dont think thats healthy

 

well put norway well put indeed....this is what these forums are for and when there is silence by some posters because they might agree with me then 9/10 is they dont want to go against the norm........it never has or will do bother me who agrees or not ...thats their choice. i would rather listen to an honest man who believes in what he says than someone who like you say are sheep who follow the flock......

 

This is rapidly turning into a daiswan-norgejack-dpj love-in...

For what it's worth I agree with KnackeredJack. This is probably the best health our club has ever been in, so the recent snipes by certain members have been bewildering for me. It's your right to post what you think, but we are equally entitled to voice our disapproval, which is what I'm doing now.

One thing I have always disliked about these boards though, is certain poster's hateful put-downs of anyone who disagrees with them. It gets very personal, very quickly, and it does my head in TBH. We're all in this together, as posh-boy Osborne said.

Up the Swans!

 

i dont understand how anyone can criticize the manager or pretty much anything, i dread to see what you were like if you were in the relegation zone. after the arsenal match you can barely contain your joy, next week you lose to sunderland and suddenly everything isnt what it seems and joke articles pop up about how sinclair is rubbish, dyer rubbish and graham goes from being crap to great to crap again (thats dai, not all of you)..

there are about 70 other league clubs, who would love to be in that position. enjoy the success, if you spend all season moaning and you go down next season how will you feel?

 

swamp your wrong again i have given danny plenty of praise loads of times,...... its called constructive critisism when i talk about team and formation selection for away games, plenty have said the same thing, so that is not a negitive attitude or hate to someone it is a point of view and nothing else......

 

you said categorically that he is not up to premiership football, if you continue to deny this i'll direct you to the posts, then when he scores a few goals you suddenly change your opinion and imply you knew that all along..

 

came up with 2 negatives and 7 positives.

Negatives: 1: We don't score enough goals, particularly away from home - lack of a cutting edge. 2: Our away form is poor.

Positives: 1: We play a style of football that is admired everywhere (apart from Sunderland, apparently). 2: We have, despite expected recent losses, maintained our financial as well as footballing philosophy. Whatever happens, the future's bright on that score. 3: We have a young, ambitious Manager who has blended the best of the Martinez and Sousa eras perfectly (well, almost). 4: Our signings have by and large been excellent - particularly Vorm, who at less than £2m was a snip, and Graham who is coming into his own. The loanees look good too. 5: The fans have a great affinity with this team. That's because we didn't destroy team morale by having a QPR style clearout. No egos around to speak of, and they all play for each other. Truly greater than the sum of its parts. The bulk of our squad is the one that got us here in the first place and some players like Britton have played right the way through the divisions. Those in our regular starting 11 have really stepped up and let's be honest, shocked us as well as the pundits. 6: Our away form is improving and we are definitely playing better away from home in recent matches - despite what others, including Sunderland fans, may say. 7: We are 13th going into February. If you'd have told us that last August most of us wouldn't have believed it. 8 points from a relegation berth as it stands (often pointed out on here) but only 4 points from 8th! An incredible achievement in our inaugural season imo.

to get back on thread i totally agree with the two negatives.

positive #1 - yes beautiful stuff but needs adapting in certain situations, tippy tap all day long aint gonna lead to goals all the time. #2 and 3 i agree, #4 yes agree but in my humble opinion Beattie, Lita, Moore and the not even reserve keeper were poor, #5,6,7 agree but re #6 play horses for courses on the odd occasion.

nice article KJ

 

Interesting to see different views. No surprise at the Three Amigos though. Lol. They moan about insults then refer to the rest of us as 'sheep' as though we're unenlightened rabble.

They're as entitled to post what they like as I am to point out their negativity. Free speech and all that. Can't have it both ways, amigos.

Comes to something when a Cardiff fan has to put it all into perspective.

 

Positives .... 1 - We've had a manager , a great manager , for more than one season for a change & it appears we'll have him for a few more seasons , to me this is THE positive among positives . 2 - We've climbed 2 divisions to the top on limited funds & very little turn over in the squad , safe to say most players LOVE to play at Swansea . 3 - The team is respected on & off the pitch , by almost all . 4 - Our " summer " transfers are a big hit , money well spent .... negatives 1 - ....... umm , might have to make something up .

 

Negative ... We could use another defender before the window closes , a defender we probably won't get

 

Let's go for a foreigner that needs lots of paperwork to be processed

 

Ya right Lol !!... Tottenham are injured on defense & could recall Caulker . Monk & Situ MIGHT be able to hold down the fort but a top defensive central defender would be nice

 

Yes, the squad looks a bit thin at times Breezy. Another possible negative, but in the scheme of things......

 

I'm not sure that's right actually, it has to be stipulated in the agreement that they are allowed to recall a player, and I seem to recall someone saying they hadn't done so meaning we have him to the end of the season whatever Spurs say.....

Samba wants out of Blackburn ....I know, not happening, just saying, that would be SWEET

 

I read in the Evening Post today that once the January window has passed Spurs cannot recall him until the end of the season. Spurs have refused him permission to play in the FA Cup this weekend, again on the basis that if they recall him before 23:59 on Jan 31st he could play for them in the FA Cup this season. If he's still here at Swansea on Feb 1st he will definately be available to play for us in Round 5 if we're still in it.

 

Oh er, that sounds ominous....sounds like they can recall him and probably will then.... ar5e!!! I hope Rodgers has someone else he can call on as although Monk did Ok, him, Situ & Tatey probably aren't up to mustard.

 

Apparently were looking at Mariappa from Watford for 3.5 milllion . Seems a bit sudden so I think maybe Caulker COULD be heading back , hope not though

 

Crumbles, good player, but that's a fair wedge for us to pay.... I'd probably be happier grabbing another loan until the end of the season and then assuming we are still Premier League making a permanent big money signing for centre back....Andreu Fontàs of Barcelona is looking for game time for instance

 

great article Knackeredjack..and as someone from the older generation (58 years young) i actually think the way we play is brilliant and anyone from my generation who "cant understand it " need to cast thier minds back to thier youth in my case it was "the beautifull game" played by Pel'e, Garincha ,Tostao,Jairzinho,Revelinho, Cruyff , Paulo Rossi , Johnny Repp and so on . so they should understand

 

There have some references to the way we played at Villa being different to other away games which was why we won 2-0.

The team that day was: Vorm; Rangel, Williams, Caulker, Taylor; Britton, Orlandi/Allen, Agustien; Dyer/Sinclair, Graham, Routledge.

To my mind that is still 4-5-1 / 4-3-3 whichever way you want to look at it. I watched both Villa and Sunderland games online and IMO we played well and the same in both games.

In the Villa game they handed us the first goal on a plate and had N'Zogbia's shot right at the end gone in off the post instead of shooting back across the face of the goal it could easily have been a draw 1-1. Had Sunderland not had their 2 miracle strikes (which they might not reproduce in the next 10 years) that could have been 0-0. The end results of games hinge on fine margins.

If anyone thinks there was a significant difference in the performances which I don't get, all views would be very welcome.

Actually, having thought some more, the key factor is who scored first. Having gone 1-0 up early at Villa Park, Villa had to play more openly to get back into the game. Having gone 1-0 down to Sunderland they could retreat into their shell. Unfortunately, you can't pick a team on who might score first.