It's an argument I've already won I'm afraid. It's only the uneducated among us that dwell on these things. Affairs have killed more people than 1 punch has; crimes of passion are commonplace. Gerrard doesn't go for the face, nose or temples - so the DJ isn't going to get seriously hurt. A few bruises, at worst a broken rib. The point is, you can't go around complaining about Gerrard beating up a DJ, when controversies in Man Utd's past far surpass our own. Wife beating, Affairs are rife, more assault.. the list goes on... It seems like you're just hanging on to the one off field incident we've had in years.
To detail the differences would take far more space than is available here. One of the major differences is that Liverpool has always been a port whereas Manchester is an inland industrial town. Our culture has developed from being open to outside influences for far longer. We have embraced immigation whilst at the same time having the 'right' to roam overseas - up to the 50s it was felt as being every Scoucers right to join The Merch. That's just one of the myths and stories that go to making a culture if you accept culture as being "the way things are around here". Just take another example - accent. Manchester is, as you say, only 30 miles away yet the accent and the language is totally different. Take religion. Liverpool is the only city in the UK with a predominantly Catholic population. That is neither good or bad but it does have an influence. I will totally accept that we can be over-sentimental. I also accept that we have a high opinion of our skills and abilities - not only in terms of football. We see ourselves as different and become defensive when we believe that we are being attacked - it's a socialist thing (not party political). If you want to persue your study of culture and its differences then why not Google the history of Liverpool and then follow some of the links.
Affairs have killed more people than violence? Affairs have killed more people than violence? So if it is just one unprovoked punch its ok? Anything more and he may get a slap on the wrist? Unbelieveable. You have zero argument here I'm afraid. Gerrard did go for the face. In fact he knocked the mans tooth out. So are you now seriously suggesting this is the first incident of its like to ever happen with a Liverpool player? And that you honestly believe that no Liverpool player has beaten his wife, had an affair or assaulted anybody in the past?
But the cultures, whether it is the local or immigrant population in both cities is exactly the same. You cannot tell me people in Liverpool have a unique way of thinking or way of life compared to the rest of the country. When all is said and done we are all the general public and you have people from different walks of life with different mentalities in every single city or town in this country. The accent still baffles me yes as I cannot believe how different it is compared to ours. When you go to St Helens half have a Lancashire accent and half have a scouse accent. Very strange that. Anyway living and working not far from Liverpool, being brought up to despise everything scouse (as most people in Liverpool are with Mancunians) I have first hand experience in your 'arrogance' in that you think you are different and special to everyone else but I just don't see it if I am honest.
This is just ridiculous, people in Liverpool are not brought up to hate mancs. it is fools taking rivalry too fkn far and is not in any sense practiced by the majority. Also, each city has many mixed cultural settings culture is blurring with continued integration, so, using football teams supported as a way of discrimination and as a form judgement that an individual or a group are this or that because they support a team is a practical fkn joke as it is tards that wield it, the very minority I speak of above
Read it properly!!!! It says affairs have killed more people than ONE PUNCH - not the generic "violence" term you threw in to suit your own argument
Actually I am awaiting the stats to show that affairs do indeed kill more people than one punch (which is violence, assault whatever you want to call it).
Whilst culture is always evolving, it falls back on myths, legends and stories to identify itself. In Liverpool you have the image of the Mary Ellen's but when was the last time you actually saw one? But you are right when you say that Scoucers are not brought up to hate Mancs. Apart from football I don't believe we think about them (nor they us) on a daily basis. My wife comes from South Yorkshire, she not only has a different accent but I am still surprised when she adopts different norms to the ones that I do!
You find less and less young poeple know anything about these stories and myths but they can tlel you the top 10 PS3 games n so on, and since ye burned all yer books Lord of the Rings is yer myths, lol kidding
You seem to be getting confused. First of all you say "You cannot tell me people in Liverpool have a unique way of thinking or way of life compared to the rest of the country" Then go on to say "you have people from different walks of life with different mentalities in every single city or town in this country" There is only one logical conclusion to be drawn here: The inhabitants of every city & town in this country have a different outlook on life and mentality in general - apart from Liverpool. Did i miss anything?
How did you come to that conclusion? It was said that people in Liverpool have a unique way of thinking, seperate to that of the rest of the country. So while every town or city is seemingly the same as each other, Liverpool are different to EVERYBODY ELSE are they? No Liverpool is not unique. They do not have a set mentality that every single person living there or comes from there has. The whole country is full of individuals and that is no different in Liverpool. They do not have a set mentality different to that of Manchester, Birmingham or anywhere else.
If we have to compare Liverpool and Manchester can we at least do it within the context of football please.
John Ronald Reuel Tolkien wrote LOTR because of the lack of mythology in England due to the loss of all the documents in the dark ages I think, not an expert, this is from memory from years ago, dont judge me too harshly Sir So he created an entire mythology, Lord of the rings being a very small part actually, language the lot, some piece of work and imagination, a great writer. Myth, stories history and the lessons offered, the things we pass down within communities are overlooked for Xbox360 PS3 and forgotten over time as so much has been before. Communities have been destroyed by the media mainly, noone really trusts their neighbour any more because they're either a **** a terrorist or they'll stab you or rob you, face value has truely died, judging someone by their actions has been replaced with judge them by what they say in this televised world, which is perverse. Someone can do somethng good and be painted in the wrong light by the media and thats it, gone gotta go, judged by your words, not actions.. does not compute
Muf I'm a born and bred Scouser- I have never been brought up to, or taken it upon myself, to hate Mancunians. I, like others, get defensive when attacked for no reason other than the place of my birth- or my allegiance to my local team. You still haven't answered why you think the law of the land has a pro-Liverpool bias.
Just checked and I did type it properly as South Yorkshire! It covers an area around Sheffield, Rotherham and Doncaster plus many pit villages in between. It might stretch as far North as Barnsley but I'm not sure. Was originally part of the West Riding of Yorkshire and borders Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire.
