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Poor old Getafe have been played.

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by AlanSFC, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. Dan

    Dan Well-Known Member

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    Just like English butchered Latin? Language evolves, we're not speaking the same language as we were a hundred years ago, let alone several hundred or even thousand.
     
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  2. AlanSFC

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    When do I mention the Brazilian waiter was one of the fraudsters?
     
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  3. Channonfodder

    Channonfodder Rebel without a clue.....

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    Absolutely right. If you doubt it, try making sense of Chaucer.
     
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  4. Dan

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    Believe me, I have! Chaucer, Defoe, Swift etc, looked at as part of an English Language A-level.
     
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  5. Joe!

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    From reading what you wrote, I got the impression that you thought the waiter who posed as a sheikh was the same guy who promised the takeover to Getafe. And technically the waiter was one of the fraudsters, as he partook in the fraud, but he's not the same fraudster who made the promise. I just wasn't sure if you'd realised.
     
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  6. Joe!

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    I don't think the evolution from Middle English to modern English is the best example of natural evolution of language, as the Norman conquest played a large part in that.
     
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  7. Dan

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    Chaucer maybe, but I'd not label Swift and Defoe as Middle English, being a good seven hundred years after the Norman conquest :p
     
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  8. PompeyLapras

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    I'm sorry but Civilization just looks so much better than Civilisation. Maybe it's too much of playing the game series of the same (American) name.
     
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  9. Joe!

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    And by "Norman conquest" I absolutely do not mean the Norman conquest <laugh>. That was the evolution of old English to Middle English. My bad. It was Chancery Standard which brought about modern English.
     
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  10. Dan

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    Ah but "realise" is far better than "realize"!

    Not that this is really an Americanisation (ization?) as -ize has been in use in England since the 16th century and is acknowledged as standard by the OED... ah well, who really cares
     
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  11. AlanSFC

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    Yeah, I do realise that. I can see why you thought that though. I didn´t express it very well.
     
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    I always find it really strange how their accents have changed since then and why they changed the existing words with new ones.
     
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  13. Dan

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    That's just how language works through blending with other cultures. For example Milton Keynes is slowly developing its own accent (very slowly) as, being a new city, has a blend of people from different areas of the country, thus different accents are meshing and sort of blending.

    Though it definitely is strange.
     
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  14. Joe!

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    It might displease you to know that, before we colonised America, our accent sounded quite similar to the American accent now. Our upper class one day decided that the accent wasn't posh enough so they actually changed it. Like they actively decided to start speaking a different way.
     
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    Bull.
     
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  16. PompeyLapras

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    American accents are brilliant.

    Gotta love them.

    Learn something new every day! Would explain why -ize isn't included as a spelling mistake on UK English in Word and yeah I agree -ize generally doesn't look good.
     
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  17. Joe!

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    Google Chrome always tries to correct me when I end words in "-ise". I continue to do it more out of spiting Google than for any other reason.
     
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  19. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Strewth we didn't shatter Latin or any other language to evolve as the English language. English is a shambolic mixture of European languages, Including Latin. Over the years other words have been added to the language including colloquialisms. As some one else said the language of today was not the same as spoken 100 years ago. Just as you get different versions of French and German.
     
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  20. Dan

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    I was the only one to mention English in association with Latin and said we butchered it sarcastically - if you look at my other posts you'll see I'm a firm descriptivist :)
     
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