Those seats along the Fratton touchline will have their rightful proper long standing owners back for Pompey's next home game.... they'll be empty.
You make a very good point PL. OK, spread this word... THERE'S LOADS OF US SAINTS FANS WHO DON'T ACTUALLY HATE POMPEY..! In fact, I bet most Saints fans don't actually hate Pompey. We/They simply think of them as close rivals or that-club-down-the-road or something else entirely, maybe with a bit of a dislike or not. But I suspect most don't actually hate Portsmouth FC. Spread that around. I have to say that if I actually truly hated a rival football club, of all relatively unimportant things in the world, I'd begin to think there was something wrong with me, upstairs. I mean, they're not a political party or a overbearing dictatorship, or a corrupt institution that can adversely change your life, so how can they be worthy of hated..? Beats me.
Because we knew 40 plus years of parity was about to be restored......we'll move on and probably forget about you again!!!!!
That's good to know! It's the same with us: there are loads of us Pompey fans who don't actually hate Saints!
Local derbies really annoy me and it is one thing I don't like about football. Because usual well-behaved fans become thugs and hooligans for no reason and think because it's a local derby they have an excuse to get away with it. There is no reason to hate a club just because it is next to you geographically. Real rivalries are ones like Chelsea-Barca, Mourinho/Barca, Arsenal-Stoke etc due to real reasons and hatred between the clubs, players etc instead of just between the fans and pure geography. Some of the scenes at Fratton Park were a disgrace. And not born due to any real rivalry or hatred but due to an excuse to be angry, to act like a thug with an excuse imo. Disgusting. And I'd add that Saints fans were all that innocent nor have they at several other games this season. It is not 'cool' to be a dickhead and act a ****ing idiot.
There's another thread running, right now, about what an awful person John PFC Westwood is supposed to be. It's funny that, some people just can't keep it in, one way or another. All hand signals and expletives, at a local derby, or typing unpleasant comments on forums, about someone they know very little about, who's also at a local derby. One thing binds it all together and, I've said this before, it's crowd mentality. People react in a way that they wouldn't normally, when in a situation that offers them anonymity. Internet forum, or big (sometimes!) crowd, often brings out the worst in otherwise, usually decent folk. Not everyone is like that, but hey, there it is. Mellow out, dudes.
Again, I said a neutral opinion which is quite fair Have nothing against Pompey and nothing against Westwood Not all SFC fans are idiots. Banana excepted
I feel I should point out, I don't think I used the s word more than once, if even that. Likewise I didn't join in some of the anti-Southampton chants such as the one about hitting Southampton fans with bricks or the "We're waiting for you" one (and I don't if they're ever chanted at other games). The only time I did the 'arm pointing in the general direction of the Southampton fans' thing was after we scored I think and chanting "You're not singing anymore". That's hardly thuggish behaviour though and can be found at any football game, derby or not.
What about the song where a dad tell his son to be a man, get his fathers (sic) gun and go on some sort of killing spree? I've heard that sung with gusto many a time in recent years.
Maybe the clubs could do something to tone it all down on both sides. Show some solidarity for footballs sake. Funny thing was that the players all shook hands in a nice manor at the end, no grudges on their part. I don't hate Pompey and hope we play more derbies, but maybe with less abuse in the stands. I do believe most fans who went had some anger to vent bar the Pompey ST holders. The bubble didn't tempt me in anyway. Anyway let's hope it improves at St Mary's in April. My worry is that what we saw yesterday exposes something that is very wrong in society not just football. Still, we can't change it I guess.
No, I'm not overly keen on it myself. I have sung it in the past though. At least the father isn't asking his son to shoot Pompey supporters in front of their own families, is he..? Now that would be beyond the pale..!
Yes, but you've got to say the right words. None of that Klaatu barada nicto nonsense. That just gets him to pick up his Captain and take him back into his spaceship. I suppose he could abduct the entire home supporters. How's that..? No harm done
One of my all time favourite B&W Sci fi films. I didn't dislike the remake as much as I thought I would either. I loved that bit in the original, when Michael Rennie changes the scientific equation on the black board and the look on the professors face when he sees it, as it slowly dawns on him, like a revelation from god, which of course, it almost is.
Dear God. The overreaction on this thread is immense. Seriously? I agree that the abuse, the violent, individual abuse, is wrong and disgusting, but to generalize it to make it look like every Pompey fan is like that, and in the process not even bothering to realise that there is just as many dickheads that do that, that are Saints fans, is just crazy!! I was at St. fairies in 2010 and there was just as much abuse coming from Saints fans as from us. After the game, on the way to the coaches, I had to duck down because there was rocks being thrown at us! Passions rise at derbies. The majority of the swearing and abuse between fans (toward fans, not players, that's an entirely different matter as they're individual whereas fans are in groups) is just banter, and stays inside the football ground, or doesn't go any further than that. It's the thugs and hooligans that use the game as an excuse to get violent that are pathetic and let down BOTH clubs. And to say it's gonna change in the future is wishful thinking. Although quite honestly, I think banter adds to the derbies. It's always been there.
Sad but true. But could someone explain to me how we have reached this point. I moved away from Hampshire when I was 18 (a long long time ago) and was not unusual in having Pompey and Saints fans in the extended family. I recall banter, but I don't recall the level of bile being spewed that we see now. I've always had a lot of respect for Pompey fans. The way they kept supporting the team through some pretty dark times was admirable. When they were getting stuffed by Arsenal on national telly but were singing "Can we play you every week" it was the sign of a loyal (and humorous) fan base. I was bought up to respect fans and players of other teams. The fans were clearly deluded as the sane only support Saints, of course, and the players should have known better. However, this attitude meant I could appreciate the majestic skills of - e.g. Moore, Charlton, Best - when I was growing up. I can still get pleasure from watching a good player on the other team, and I even got some consolation from the fact that the Pompey scorer was a local lad not some expensive import they couldn't really afford. Maybe it's do with the fact that my parents generation had some real enemies to deal with who were trying to kill them. Is it a sign of the times? The derby games in Liverpool were always known as being friendly, but friends of mine on both sides of the divide tell me this is no longer the case. Sorry, this is very old codgerish, but I simply don't get it.
Tend to agree...sport in general has been homogenised to fit the BBC viewing profile...all grinning and back-slapping and "fair-play"...a lot of the venom of football has been drawn out of games by television and the football authorities to present a clean-cut image...let the viewers see the chavs for what they are...only thing in my mind is it should be rivalry a la Liverpool and Everton, not hatred.
