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thereisonlyoneno7 said:
I'm impressed.

I'm an IT geek and do all sorts of things with servers etc for a living and at home. (just spent an hour with a raspberry pi and an Amazon echo and got it to talk to the kettle, so I can say "Alexa, put the kettle on"). My other half is 53 and can barely turn on the TV, let alone know what a VPN is or a torrent. Not a criticism or a talk down or being condescending, just genuinely impressed :)
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I'm not at all techie - give me a PC to build and I'd run a mile - and I'm not a programmer but I work with Highway systems every day so I'm not afraid of what a computer can do. My knowledge of torrents started years ago when I wanted to watch Stargate but didn't have Sky. Internet friends pointed me in the right direction and I've never looked back since :) I just keep my ear to the ground re VPN etc as I got a warning letter from one of the big US TV firms about illegally downloading their series. They won't be able to find me now... ;)
 
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Is there any constitutional reason why we (UK) couldn`t have another referendum on EU membership ? Surely the PM must represent the people , and if there is sufficient groundswell for it, then why not ?
 
Saint Helen said:
I'm not at all techie - give me a PC to build and I'd run a mile - and I'm not a programmer but I work with Highway systems every day so I'm not afraid of what a computer can do. My knowledge of torrents started years ago when I wanted to watch Stargate but didn't have Sky. Internet friends pointed me in the right direction and I've never looked back since :) I just keep my ear to the ground re VPN etc as I got a warning letter from one of the big US TV firms about illegally downloading their series. They won't be able to find me now... ;)
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Usenet newsgroups are the way forward - quicker than torrents (where you get bits from all over then the software puts it all together - and it kills your bandwidth), similar software used to download, but it comes in one chunk the only small drawback is a small monthly subscription. ISPs don't block it as it's a legitimate service (used in education), but the whole thing is encrypted, so they cant tell what you are downloading. Really reliable and fast though - I can have an episode of the Real Housewives of Atlanta for the wife downloaded in about 10 mins :)
 
thereisonlyoneno7 said:
Usenet newsgroups are the way forward - quicker than torrents (where you get bits from all over then the software puts it all together - and it kills your bandwidth), similar software used to download, but it comes in one chunk the only small drawback is a small monthly subscription. ISPs don't block it as it's a legitimate service (used in education), but the whole thing is encrypted, so they cant tell what you are downloading. Really reliable and fast though - I can have an episode of the Real Housewives of Atlanta for the wife downloaded in about 10 mins :)
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I tried Usenet years ago - at least 15 - and had horrendous problems with virus attacks and the downloads just not working. I'm never in a particular rush to get hold of an episode as I'm so far behind in my TV watching but quite often an episode downloads in 20 minutes. I downloaded the whole series of The Crown last week in about 90 minutes - haven't started watching it yet, though :)
 
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It would appear that only votes held on 23rd June 2016 are democratic. Even the suggestion of a vote on any other date is, in fact, an affront to democracy.

As is asking the courts to decide on whether the government is following the law of the land by trying not to involve Parliament in revoking a UK law. Especially if the case is brought by someone who wasn't even born here. The right to keep our government within the law is not the kind of sovereignty we want back.

Vin
 
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With one more month in office, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) just vetoed a bill that will have devastating consequences for prisoners long after he is gone. This week, he doomed countless pregnant women and people with mental illness to indefinite solitary confinement, calling legislation that would end their isolation “[irresponsible]” and “breathtaking” while ignoring research that likens the practice to torture.

On Monday, the outgoing governor vetoed a bill passed by the legislature in October that banned solitary for pregnant women and prisoners suffering from mental health problems. The bill also scaled back isolation for all state prisoners by limiting it to 15 consecutive days in a single month, or 20 days over a two-month period. In short, it effectively ended the common practice of indefinite isolation, which entails 23-hour lock-down in a cell with no outside contact, and which scientists, lawmakers, faith leaders and prison reform advocates agree causes visual and auditory impairment, damages the part of the brain that produces memory and emotion, exacerbates preexisting mental health conditions, and leads to deadly neglect. It also required routine medical check-ups on everyone locked in solitary.

https://thinkprogress.org/chris-chr...olicy-df7fc9dfdf86?gi=3b99a2433dee#.cl5yl46q4
 
Is Trump proposing building more coal powered power stations, or justt buying coal from america for the excising ones? Colombia will be screwed as it produces 75 per cent lf us needs
 
Puck said:
Well this by-election result looks pretty grim for Labour. Slipping from second to fourth.
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Awful result. Majority of voters there voting for UKIP (Conservative Party there having been infiltrated by UKIP). Ted Heath would have thrown the likes of Deadwood, Fox, Bullshit J, Gove, and a fair few others out of the Conservative Party. Come back Ted, you had your faults, but on one thing all true Conservatives like yourself and Ken Clarke agree on, and that is for the UK to be a full participating member of the EU, even being a member of the eurozone. Sadly, the UK is taking a massive step backwards to the 1930s.
 
The Ides of March said:
Awful result. Majority of voters there voting for UKIP (Conservative Party there having been infiltrated by UKIP). Ted Heath would have thrown the likes of Deadwood, Fox, Bullshit J, Gove, and a fair few others out of the Conservative Party. Come back Ted, you had your faults, but on one thing all true Conservatives like yourself and Ken Clarke agree on, and that is for the UK to be a full participating member of the EU, even being a member of the eurozone. Sadly, the UK is taking a massive step backwards to the 1930s.
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I'm beginning to get the slight impression that you may not want to leave the EU. ;)

Probably not a good idea to use Ted Heath as your example until the inquiry is over. Stick to Ken Clarke.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38190489
 
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The Ides of March said:
Awful result. Majority of voters there voting for UKIP (Conservative Party there having been infiltrated by UKIP). Ted Heath would have thrown the likes of Deadwood, Fox, Bullshit J, Gove, and a fair few others out of the Conservative Party. Come back Ted, you had your faults, but on one thing all true Conservatives like yourself and Ken Clarke agree on, and that is for the UK to be a full participating member of the EU, even being a member of the eurozone. Sadly, the UK is taking a massive step backwards to the 1930s.
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This is a silly post. The majority of voters voted for UKIP? so voted Tory? UKIPs voteshare fell from 16% to 13%.

Labour are in a hole and were never going to make any gain in Lincolnshire other than the city of Lincoln itself which is currently Tory as well.

It makes me laugh how all you open minded liberals give it out all the time about how leavers are this and that yet here you are saying anyone who doesn;t agree with what you agree with is "deadwood", Bullshit and UKIP entryists.

Ken Clarke got called out for BS the other day when he said Peter Bone had asked for a second referendum last time round when he had been on the losing side. Clarke is the bullshitter because Peter Bone voted to join in the first referendum.
 
ImpSaint said:
This is a silly post. The majority of voters voted for UKIP? so voted Tory? UKIPs voteshare fell from 16% to 13%.

Labour are in a hole and were never going to make any gain in Lincolnshire other than the city of Lincoln itself which is currently Tory as well.

It makes me laugh how all you open minded liberals give it out all the time about how leavers are this and that yet here you are saying anyone who doesn;t agree with what you agree with is "deadwood", Bullshit and UKIP entryists.

Ken Clarke got called out for BS the other day when he said Peter Bone had asked for a second referendum last time round when he had been on the losing side. Clarke is the bullshitter because Peter Bone voted to join in the first referendum.
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Why is it silly? The Conservative Party was a strong pro-EU party.Indeed it was the party that took us into the EU. However considerable numbers of their MPs backed Brexit, which is not or was not the Conservative Party position. So over the years people opposed to the EU have infiltrated local Conservative Parties and chosen candidates who are eurosceptic. It happened with the Labour Party in the 70s and 80s where considerable numbers of Marxists became party members until Kinnock threw them out. Maybe they are creeping back in again under Corbyn. So unlike Kinnock who got rid of his extremists, Cameron failed miserably to do so or even tried to tackle. And the term I used like "Deadwood," and Bullshit J refers to politicians and not the electorate.
 
In the 70s the Conservative party was a pro-EU party and the Labour Party was broadly anti-EU. Dennis Skinner voted to leave in the summer, Tony Benn was also strongly anti-EU.

Both parties have changed their position over the years. I don't think it's anything to do with infiltration.
 
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