Just wondering how far the pound has to fall before Britain's economy effectively shrinks behind the next country below us.
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Just wondering how far the pound has to fall before Britain's economy effectively shrinks behind the next country below us.
This is what created Brexit. This is what the disenfranchised people of the North of England voted against in the mistaken belief that it was down to the EU. It was Conservative Government policy. That's where this pathetic 3.8% majority, that we're supposed to be so chuffed with, has developed.
Yup. And equally, here is Andrea Leadsom's voting record.
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Then they should inform us on everything then not just the ones they don't like.
It was Labour that allowed employers the chance of a cheap workforce and it was Labour that let them kick the Brits out and replace them. It was Labour that let agencies advertise abroad without advertising here.
The Tories have continued it yes. But Labour started this problem the very day they decided not to use the restrictions that other major economies used on the freedom of movement of Labour from accession countries.
It was fine pre 2004 when Portuguese and Spanish and French came to work as they weren't massive numbers. But 2004 and Polish, Latvian and Lithuanian accession meant that the employer's eyes lit up. A workforce they could order to do what they wanted and they only had to pay the NMW. What a great deal for them.
But on the flip side. She took Bob Diamond to task and in the wake of this criticised George Osborne and Ed Balls. This is why she was removed from the Treasury and why there is smearing about her being incapable. She dared to criticise George Osborne....the chief strategist of the Tory party. The man who ruled by proxy.
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So once again, according to your evidence, the fault of the Brexit vote lies with the policy of British Governments, not the EU.
I love the fact that this leadership contest is giving everyone including the media a chance to do a bit of good old fashioned Tory bashing. May I remind those that like to blame this nation's ills on the Conservatives, that whenever there has been a crisis it has been a Conservative Prime Minister who has been at the helm to dig this nation out of a hole. Be it Churchill during WW2, Thatcher in the 80s and Cameron in the 2010s.
I respect people's opinions but I urge people to stop being influenced by hardcore left wing forces within the media. There is an agenda, and this agenda serves only to divide the country even more.
I respect people's opinions but I urge people to stop being influenced by hardcore left wing forces within the media. There is an agenda, and this agenda serves only to divide the country even more.
"Hard core left wing forces within the media"?
I respect your opinions, but you're nuts mate. Loopy Lou in fact.
There has been completely biased coverage of the hole Brexit situation. I'm sick to the back teeth of it. You can't turn of the TV without seeing socialist sympathiser chatting about how the young have been screwed over because the referendum outcome doesn't fit in with their 'progressive liberalist' attitude. Yet these same young people are strongly against the decision of a completely democratic referendum, and in favour of a undemocratic institution known as the European Union - tell me, where's the progressive liberalism in that?? They are hypocrits. Is it because the media have pumped this left wing idiocy into their brains, I wonder.
Mean while, the rest of us who voted leave because we don't like the bureaucracy and tight controls that the European Union imposes on this country are portrayed in the media as uneducated racist, biggots. Give me a break, stop reading The Guardian and grow up.
I apologise if I offend anyone, or anyone feels strongly against what I have said. We are all entitled to our opinions.
The biggest puppetmaster in the whole of the printed and tv media is Rupert Murdoch and he is a dyed-in-the-wool hardline right wing Aussie. It's shameful how much influence that Colonnial has over us.
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Churchill was a Tory, but the goverment was a coalition, in peacetime Churchill was routed at the next election and the Labour Government set up the NHS and other valuable social reforms.
I lived through the 80's and they weren't very great for me working in the Boatbuilding industry. Cut my apprenticeship short and on the scrapheap with 3 million others, then told to get on my bike to work by a fatcat millionaire director of BT...Manufacturing has never recovered fully from those dark days.
In essence yes. British governments could have at least accepted the truth years ago when people were saying they were losing their jobs but they didn't and many still don't. That is why many Midlands and Northern towns voted out.
I have no idea why these seaside towns voted out. Maybe seasonal work on the coastline has suffered the same? I have no idea about their reasons.
I am a Tory member and find the highlighted part funny. He has been at the helm at a time when he was needed to dig us out of a hole.........but he chose to follow the Blair route instead. He has not dug us out of a hole at all and not made any tough decisions (or at least not stuck to them.)
I would suggest that Auntie is the most influential media outlet in Britain. More influence than all the printed and other televised media put together.
I keep hearing about Murdoch all the time but what are Sky news channel vs BBC news channel figures? 1 o clock, 6 o clock, 10 o clock news, question time, daily politics, sunday politics, this week, panorama.
Then there is the middle class programming of lifestyle programs aimed at those from "with a bit of spare cash" to "with a lot of spare cash".
The BBC virtually tells people what a nice way of life is and should be and in many cases absolutely trashes any thought otherwise.
CH4 is just the same these days. Their way is normal and acceptable and any slight difference away from those views creates a half hour program on how it is disgusting.
Brainwash central. This is what you should all be like and aspire to. Clones. It's like Rush-2112. Like Ayn Rand's "Anthem"
I hold no brief for Labour but this is nonsense. As said above, Churchill was a Conservative leading a coalition, and he led the war cabinet, and domestic policy was largely left to others. Thatcher inherited a financial crisis but her monetarist policies paved the way for the crash of 2008. And Cameron tried to bluff his way out of the EU debate and failed. And since when has any of the media, including the "leftist" BBC, failed to score a point against Jeremy Corbyn? And your final point is completely the opposite of reality, since when has NewsCorp been hardcore left wing? Laughable.
God I'm sick of hearing all this middle class/ working class stuff. I have never put myself in a class and I hoped we had moved on from stereotypically labelling people like this.