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St Badger said:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/30/osbornes-national-living-wage-minimum-wage

This claims that the minimum "living" wage should be £8.25 per hour, £9.40 in London.
Some companies have signed up to this hourly rate, which is great, but I'm not sure how much impact it would have on less profitable concerns, were all wages increased by a further £1.05 per hour.
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Not that i'm defending corporations as anyone should be paid the amount to live, but for a big company like say starbucks, they employ 182k people (does this include agency?) in the world and own ~21,500 stores.

THats around 8.5 people per store of which they have 845, so lets say around 7000 employees (obviously not all will be on minimum wage but all rough estimates).

At 1 pound increase in wage a week with an average week of 40 hours thats around 160 pounds per person a month so around £1,176,000 a month so you can see why big corporations will loathe to increase pay.
 
The fascinating thing about this to me is how much damage can be done by a mere 260 gigs of information. Think about it. 260 gigs is nothing. Many of us have more than that on our hard drives or cloud storage just from videos, games, apps, and photos.

So while I get that some politicians are getting their deserved comeuppance, the state of cybersecurity and the implications going forward are still frightening. When it's these guys everyone is like "Yeah, publish that stuff. Leak more!" But if it were our bank account information we'd be steaming mad.

I don't know what the solution is.
 
I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
The fascinating thing about this to me is how much damage can be done by a mere 260 gigs of information. Think about it. 260 gigs is nothing. Many of us have more than that on our hard drives or cloud storage just from videos, games, apps, and photos.

So while I get that some politicians are getting their deserved comeuppance, the state of cybersecurity and the implications going forward are still frightening. When it's these guys everyone is like "Yeah, publish that stuff. Leak more!" But if it were our bank account information we'd be steaming mad.

I don't know what the solution is.
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Where did you get the 260 gigs from? It's 2.6TB. Which is 2600 gigs.
 
I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
The fascinating thing about this to me is how much damage can be done by a mere 260 gigs of information. Think about it. 260 gigs is nothing. Many of us have more than that on our hard drives or cloud storage just from videos, games, apps, and photos.

So while I get that some politicians are getting their deserved comeuppance, the state of cybersecurity and the implications going forward are still frightening. When it's these guys everyone is like "Yeah, publish that stuff. Leak more!" But if it were our bank account information we'd be steaming mad.

I don't know what the solution is.
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If you're referring to the Panama Papers leak that's 2.6 TB [terabytes], which is 10 times bigger at 2,600 Gigs. Yes, that's only the size of a couple of average modern PC HDDs, but when you consider that one page of text is about 1 to 10K [1024 - 10240 bytes] then you begin to see the potential amount of text data involved.

EDIT: beat me to it Beef.

RE-EDIT: Useful guide to the PP leak - http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/03/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-panama-papers
 
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I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
The fascinating thing about this to me is how much damage can be done by a mere 260 gigs of information. Think about it. 260 gigs is nothing. Many of us have more than that on our hard drives or cloud storage just from videos, games, apps, and photos.

So while I get that some politicians are getting their deserved comeuppance, the state of cybersecurity and the implications going forward are still frightening. When it's these guys everyone is like "Yeah, publish that stuff. Leak more!" But if it were our bank account information we'd be steaming mad.

I don't know what the solution is.
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It's 2,600 gigs isn't it? The leak is 2.6 terabytes in total and one terabyte is 1,000 GB.
 
To help imagine the size of the PP leak, remember that a simple page of text is typically 1K - 10K. Things like formatting, graphs and photos increase that size, so let's say, for arguments sake that each page is a whopping 1MB for reasonably complicated text and graphs [that's really big for just text and graphs]. Here's an another idea of the size:

1,024 B (bytes) = 1KB (kilobyte)
1,024 KB (kilobytes) = 1 MB (megabyte) 1 PAGE
1,024 MB (megabytes) = 1 GB (gigabyte) 1024 PAGES
1,024 GB (gigabytes) = 1 TB (terabyte) 1,048,576 PAGES

If it were simple text and graphs that might be a representative number of pages, but I'm not going to contemplate a million pages of text data being leaked, especially when you consider that you have to multiply that last figure by 2.6. Let's just say it is a vast amount of mixed leaked data.
 
This seems to be winning some plaudits.

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Quite amusing but not really much more than a bit childish itself, really.

Also, as much as I don't agree with Corbyn's politics I don't think it's fair to depict him as being childish.
 
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TheSecondStain said:
Oh dear, the **** appears to ne hitting the fan everywhere today. UEFA offices are being raided by Swiss Police, as I write, as part of the PP leaks.
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Yeah posted that on the other page. Can't we open the Panama thread back up? But make it a rule politic arguing isn't allowed?
 
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Oh dear, the **** appears to ne hitting the fan everywhere today. UEFA offices are being raided by Swiss Police, as I write, as part of the PP leaks.
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Everywhere except the UK, where no one seems to give a ****. Despite the fact that a massive percentage of these tax dodging vehicles are registered in British overseas territories.
 
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Is it 2.6 terrabytes? I guess someone on NPR this morning doesn't know their memory conversion or I heard it wrong.

But it doesn't change anything. Because even 2.6 terrabytes is still nothing. Yes, it's actually a massive amount of documents/info. But that's the whole point. That vast amounts of info. can be condensed into such an easily stealable form. On a fast connection, you could possibly grab that overnight. And it's only going to get easier.

The average time to discover a breach is something like 200 days. Granted, that's because a lot of breaches don't do much, and they notice when they actually try and do something important. But that's a problem too, if you don't notice until AFTER they've started hacking your important DB's.
 
I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
Is it 2.6 terrabytes? I guess someone on NPR this morning doesn't know their memory conversion or I heard it wrong.

But it doesn't change anything. Because even 2.6 terrabytes is still nothing. Yes, it's actually a massive amount of documents/info. But that's the whole point. That vast amounts of info. can be condensed into such an easily stealable form. On a fast connection, you could possibly grab that overnight. And it's only going to get easier.

The average time to discover a breach is something like 200 days. Granted, that's because a lot of breaches don't do much, and they notice when they actually try and do something important. But that's a problem too, if you don't notice until AFTER they've started hacking your important DB's.
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Ok, I see your point. Which begs the question - whither transparency?
 
In the (not very distant) future, all information will be open to scrutiny. Whether that's a good or bad thing, who can say? As a general rule though, if it worries the rich and powerful, it must be doing some good.
 
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