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Has anyone articulated the consequences of withdrawal from the EU for football clubs. Suddenly all of those European players will need work permits and recruitment of young people from Europe into academies and for English players to play in Europe could be problematic.
 
St Godders said:
Has anyone articulated the consequences of withdrawal from the EU for football clubs. Suddenly all of those European players will need work permits and recruitment of young people from Europe into academies and for English players to play in Europe could be problematic.
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I can't see it causing much of an issue. We got a work permit for Tadanari Lee on the grounds of him having a talent to offer to the English game.

I imagine it would all go down the same route. I read somewhere that a deal would be drawn up.
 
- Doing The Lambert Walk said:
I can't see it causing much of an issue. We got a work permit for Tadanari Lee on the grounds of him having a talent to offer to the English game.

I imagine it would all go down the same route. I read somewhere that a deal would be drawn up.
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If we do vote to pull out of Europe, the lawyers are going to be very busy because most of the next twenty years will be spent drawing up and tearing up deals on every issue under the sun.
 
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Beddytare said:
Surely all of us that watch the bbc will have our own political bias and see their reports accordingly. They will always be kicked about from either side as latterly in my view they have lost their skill at seemingly keeping an unbiased perspective. That is probably because some of their high profile reporters are often seen at demonstrations etc which usually means that the public know their political bias.
I have often thought this during political debates where they are chairing discussions from all sides. (Question time may be a good example) under those circumstances it has to be difficult for the bbc not to be seen as biased one way or tother.
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I try to watch Question Time, when I remember it is on, but get a little angry at the way, I feel, Dimbleby allows his allegiance to the Tories, to show.
IMO he gives Tory MPs as much time as they need, to put their points across, including being able to come back at opposing comments, with helpful comments from Dimbleby, himself to support them.
Those that oppose the Tories frequently have to bat away barbed comments from Dimbleby and are often stopped from responding to come backs.
Andrew Neil is another Tory supporter, who chairs political programmes for the Beeb, but I rarely see his programme, so I can't comment on his influence on debates.
Getting a totally independent point of view, ahead of the EU referendum, will be almost impossible.
 
RBS making huge loses again. Osborne still wants to sell the shares...
 
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Beefy said:
Osborne is the one wanting to sell offthe shares right now is what I meant. The whole bailing out the banks has been a waste.
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Well, except that it stopped them going bust and millions of people losing money over and above the guaranteed deposit amount [EDIT: Which the government would potentially have been paying anyway as the banks would probably have gone like dominoes once people started taking out their funds]. Chap who used to live a few doors from us had his life savings of £120K in a Northern Rock account. Bet he's glad they were bailed out. And many more like him.

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- Doing The Lambert Walk said:
I can't see it causing much of an issue. We got a work permit for Tadanari Lee on the grounds of him having a talent to offer to the English game.

I imagine it would all go down the same route. I read somewhere that a deal would be drawn up.
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Would Morgan Spiderman made us 20mil plus in the possible coming scenario?
 
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Once again solutions are lost behind pointless statistical arguments.

The aim for a 7 day a week NHS is correct and no one should argue against it. The weekend effect is real and as per that more or less program. The issue is in the mindset of the public. If you're ill at the weekend, unless you feel it's serious then you're going to wait it out, which may or may not have consequences.
That mindset needs changing and the best way to do that is to advertise that a fully working NHS is available during the week and at weekends.

Of course the most practical way to resolve that issue is to employee more staff. More doctors and more nurses can cover more hours. Not rocket science brain surgery, but then we're back at our old friend money.

Changing the contracts of the junior doctors has clearly back fired and i'm surprised the government have dug their heels in. Unfortunately you have to work hard to find the real problem with the contracts behind the militant lefts dramatic "Save the NHS" banners
 
saintlyhero said:
Once again solutions are lost behind pointless statistical arguments.

The aim for a 7 day a week NHS is correct and no one should argue against it. The weekend effect is real and as per that more or less program. The issue is in the mindset of the public. If you're ill at the weekend, unless you feel it's serious then you're going to wait it out, which may or may not have consequences.
That mindset needs changing and the best way to do that is to advertise that a fully working NHS is available during the week and at weekends.

Of course the most practical way to resolve that issue is to employee more staff. More doctors and more nurses can cover more hours. Not rocket science brain surgery, but then we're back at our old friend money.

Changing the contracts of the junior doctors has clearly back fired and i'm surprised the government have dug their heels in. Unfortunately you have to work hard to find the real problem with the contracts behind the militant lefts dramatic "Save the NHS" banners
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I'm afraid it goes back to Britain's reluctance to finance anything properly. Even though the NHS has billions chucked at it, it still has to go through crisis after crisis because one government has to refund it after another has squeezed it until the pips squeaked. The cheapest option with the NHS is to fund it properly. And come at it from the right angle by having preventative practices, rather than a rescue system all the time. Then you end up with a healthier population, with properly funded preventative procedures looking after them, and that makes them better for society and less of a burden on the state overall. Instead, the population are allowed to go to the devil in their own way and an underfunded, undermanned and overworked NHS does the best it can. And that's fully acknowledging that its best is surprisingly good, even so.
 
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saintlyhero said:
Once again solutions are lost behind pointless statistical arguments.

The aim for a 7 day a week NHS is correct and no one should argue against it. The weekend effect is real and as per that more or less program. The issue is in the mindset of the public. If you're ill at the weekend, unless you feel it's serious then you're going to wait it out, which may or may not have consequences.
That mindset needs changing and the best way to do that is to advertise that a fully working NHS is available during the week and at weekends.

Of course the most practical way to resolve that issue is to employee more staff. More doctors and more nurses can cover more hours. Not rocket science brain surgery, but then we're back at our old friend money.

Changing the contracts of the junior doctors has clearly back fired and i'm surprised the government have dug their heels in. Unfortunately you have to work hard to find the real problem with the contracts behind the militant lefts dramatic "Save the NHS" banners
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Quite right, except the current government approach will lose the NHS doctors and nurses. Somewhat lost in the fuss over junior Drs is the cancellation of nursing bursaries, bloody madness. It's almost like the tories want the NHS to fail and replace it with a nice, fair system like that in the USA.

I love the fact that MPs want to take away enhanced rates for eves and Sats for the Doctors while they will continue get one if a debate lasts one min past 7.30pm, oh and a meal allowance if it goes to11pm. Time we had a hard working government 24hrs a day, 7 days a week, at flat rate, if you ask me. Actually no, that might just finish me off.
 
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