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When Rachel Reeves cried in the House of Commons the cost of government borrowing rose because the markets thought she was going to be sacked and, while she's useless, they thought anyone else in the Labour party would be worse. When Andy Burnham briefly looked likely to challenge Starmer in September the cost of borrowing rose again. This could get very messy. It's not impossible we tip over into a major crisis that brings down the government.

It also seems the Andrew formerly known as Prince is now being investigated by the Police for misconduct in public office.
 
Hilarious, on both counts.
Corbyn was popular with grass roots and nearly won an election where Brexit was more of an issue. Most Labour members want a return to the grassroots of the party.

Rayner would resonate with working class voters like me and she is the ideal repost to Farage. Labour needs to move to the Left and address the issues of ordinary working people.
 
Corbyn was popular with grass roots and nearly won an election where Brexit was more of an issue. Most Labour members want a return to the grassroots of the party.

Rayner would resonate with working class voters like me and she is the ideal repost to Farage. Labour needs to move to the Left and address the issues of ordinary working people.
Regardless of her politics, it's not going to happen right now is it? She's still under investigation by HMRC and if they find she's guilty of something or say she broke the ministerial code then she'd have to resign almost immediately.
 
Listening to LBC this morn8ng, their political editor Natasha Clark thinks that Starmer will be gone by the end of the week at the latest.
 
Listening to LBC this morn8ng, their political editor Natasha Clark thinks that Starmer will be gone by the end of the week at the latest.
Following the story from the Philippines and it certainly feels that the momentum is for Starmer to be removed. Just think the new leader needs to be a woman and cut from the same cloth as Sturgeon.
 
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When Rachel Reeves cried in the House of Commons the cost of government borrowing rose because the markets thought she was going to be sacked and, while she's useless, they thought anyone else in the Labour party would be worse. When Andy Burnham briefly looked likely to challenge Starmer in September the cost of borrowing rose again. This could get very messy. It's not impossible we tip over into a major crisis that brings down the government.

It also seems the Andrew formerly known as Prince is now being investigated by the Police for misconduct in public office.


By 'the markets' you mean the bankers, traders and speculators who crashed the world's economy in 2008, causing a financial meltdown from which we're all still reeling? yeah, let's put our trust in them shall we?
 
By 'the markets' you mean the bankers, traders and speculators who crashed the world's economy in 2008, causing a financial meltdown from which we're all still reeling? yeah, let's put our trust in them shall we?
This is a silly response. It's not a question of putting your trust in anyone and your opinion of "the markets" is irrelevant. Your local loan shark is probably a total arsehole but if you borrow money from him then you hand him a degree of control over your life. In the same way, the UK government spends over £100 billion on debt interest every year and borrows over £10 billion every month. The markets are essentially the people and organisations that successive UK governments have borrowed money from. That makes them very important. If you don't like that then you should be opposed to the government borrowing money. Which ultimately means lower government spending.
 
Is this going to be the end? Starmer about to come out of No10 to say something.

Tick tock
 
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When Rachel Reeves cried in the House of Commons the cost of government borrowing rose because the markets thought she was going to be sacked and, while she's useless, they thought anyone else in the Labour party would be worse. When Andy Burnham briefly looked likely to challenge Starmer in September the cost of borrowing rose again. This could get very messy. It's not impossible we tip over into a major crisis that brings down the government.

It also seems the Andrew formerly known as Prince is now being investigated by the Police for misconduct in public office.
Th problem though is that the markets are now pricing in an actual left wing government coming in and not a "blue labour" one and while we can all bang on about right wing this and reform and Tory blah...........It is the Labour left that have pulled this government down!
 
By 'the markets' you mean the bankers, traders and speculators who crashed the world's economy in 2008, causing a financial meltdown from which we're all still reeling? yeah, let's put our trust in them shall we?
And yet it was Blair and Clinton that gambled on de-regulating everything and then basked in the glory of the boom it created and still people look at what they got from that boom to defend them while seemingly disconnecting it from what all that deregulating caused!
 
Regardless of her politics, it's not going to happen right now is it? She's still under investigation by HMRC and if they find she's guilty of something or say she broke the ministerial code then she'd have to resign almost immediately.
She will try. She has no choice if someone starts the ball rolling early. Her, Streeting and anyone else that can muster the numbers so Ed Milliband and maybe 1 outsider?
 
Th problem though is that the markets are now pricing in an actual left wing government coming in and not a "blue labour" one and while we can all bang on about right wing this and reform and Tory blah...........It is the Labour left that have pulled this government down!
You only have to read some of the posts on here to see that. They're all part of this mess.
 
Th problem though is that the markets are now pricing in an actual left wing government coming in and not a "blue labour" one and while we can all bang on about right wing this and reform and Tory blah...........It is the Labour left that have pulled this government down!


Nonsense
 
Lots of people in denial in here. It is those inside Labour that have constantly been at each other, playing each other off. Streeting and Raynor have been on manoevres for over a year. It was an inside Job that put Raynor in the clutches of the media to try and kill her off. It has quite literally been from the start every man for himself and yet still you're all blind to it and go "rabid right wing press!" This is and has been for over a year all about left on left infighting!
 
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