Off Topic Politics Thread

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Puzzled by the bolded bit.

Not sure what’s puzzling?

I’m saying that people that have paid taxes jn this country and contributed to society should have priority in their MPs thinking.

Their MPs should not be interested in stuff going on in Pakistan. It’s a complete waste of time and money for Uk taxpayers
 
Not sure what’s puzzling?

I’m saying that people that have paid taxes jn this country and contributed to society should have priority in their MPs thinking.

Their MPs should not be interested in stuff going on in Pakistan. It’s a complete waste of time and money for Uk taxpayers
See my post above yours. Wondering why the distinction between ‘taxpayers that have been here all their lives’ and ‘taxpayer’.

Is there a distinction between a taxpayer that has been here all their lives or a taxpayer that hasn’t?
 
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See my post above yours. Wondering why the distinction between ‘taxpayers that have been here all their lives’ and ‘taxpayer’.

Is there a distinction between a taxpayer that has been here all their lives or a taxpayer that hasn’t?

Yes. The tax and benefits system should be contributory like it is in most other countries.

Instead of just rocking up and being given whatever you like, you should have to pay taxes here for a certain amount of time before you can use the NHS for free etc.

At the moment the UK tax payer is being asked to dish out free health care to the entire world, whilst the politicians virtue signal about other countries as the UK slowly descends into livery and chaos.

They care about everything except us
 
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Yes. The tax and benefits system should be contributory like it is in most other countries.

Instead of just rocking up and being given whatever you like, you should have to pay taxes here for a certain amount of time before you can use the NHS for free etc.

At the moment the UK tax payer is being asked to dish out free health care to the entire world, whilst the politicians virtue signal about other countries as the UK slowly descends into livery and chaos.

They care about everything except us
How long?
 
Yes. The tax and benefits system should be contributory like it is in most other countries.

Instead of just rocking up and being given whatever you like, you should have to pay taxes here for a certain amount of time before you can use the NHS for free etc.

At the moment the UK tax payer is being asked to dish out free health care to the entire world, whilst the politicians virtue signal about other countries as the UK slowly descends into livery and chaos.

They care about everything except us
We are not dishing out healthcare to the entire world. Non-residents are charged 150% of NHS costs for treatment. If you mean we treat immigrants, yes any UK resident has access to the NHS. It is part of our inclusive way of life.

They care about everything except us sounds very similar to the white nationalist voices I keep reading on X. Who do you mean by us?
 
The truth is that Climate Change may be a figment of our imagination? Another thought, Global conflict could be a major contributor of polution? Every shell, every bomb, every rocket, every flying machine and every vehicle contributes in the scale of things, all justified because it's war...
Are scientists known for having vivid imaginations?

War is never justified and of course impacts the environment but we’re doing it pretty well with peace too
 
Yes. The tax and benefits system should be contributory like it is in most other countries.

Instead of just rocking up and being given whatever you like, you should have to pay taxes here for a certain amount of time before you can use the NHS for free etc.

At the moment the UK tax payer is being asked to dish out free health care to the entire world, whilst the politicians virtue signal about other countries as the UK slowly descends into livery and chaos.

They care about everything except us
Who is ‘Us’ ?

Am I allowed in your gang as my parents didn’t live here all their lives (Mum lived here for 50 of her 73 years and dad is on 65 of his 83 years) and I have lived here all my life? I warn you before you answer I am a bit brown
 
Are scientists known for having vivid imaginations?

War is never justified and of course impacts the environment but we’re doing it pretty well with peace too


When there is a Global problem, the first step is to be aware of the issues, (most of our planet population aren't aware that there is a problem). Step 2 is to find ways to resolve the problem (who is responsible for that?). Step 3 is to implement the plans to remedy the issue (Who is intelligent enough to do that?) . We are barely aware of the problem and there are very few plans being implemented. There is a long way to before we get anywhere near saving our planet.
Have a think,"what can I do that will make a difference?" let us know your solutions and what you are currently doing that helps to fix it.
 
Who is ‘Us’ ?

Am I allowed in your gang as my parents didn’t live here all their lives (Mum lived here for 50 of her 73 years and dad is on 65 of his 83 years) and I have lived here all my life? I warn you before you answer I am a bit brown

Of course. I include you in the ‘us’ You’ve paid in a fair amount and contributed a lot, clearly.

You’re looking for offence in what is common sense policy suggestion here
 
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No mention of Mother’s Day from two tier Keir.

What a surprise!

Sod the mothers. We should pander to the religion that treats women terribly instead!
 
Yes. The tax and benefits system should be contributory like it is in most other countries.

Instead of just rocking up and being given whatever you like, you should have to pay taxes here for a certain amount of time before you can use the NHS for free etc.

At the moment the UK tax payer is being asked to dish out free health care to the entire world, whilst the politicians virtue signal about other countries as the UK slowly descends into livery and chaos.

They care about everything except us

"They" are actually some of "us"., Not a seperate alien race with an agenda.
 
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No mention of Mother’s Day from two tier Keir.

What a surprise!

Sod the mothers. We should pander to the religion that treats women terribly instead!
If you're going to get concerned about such things, it should probably be pointed out that today is Mothering Sunday, when people return to their Mother church. It has been subverted into being a non-christian festival, relating to people's mothers (and grandmothers, as well, to judge by the greetings cards available). Buying one's own mother gifts, and giving them cards, is NOT what Mothering Sunday was intended to be about. But that won't fit with your narrative of 'them' and 'us', so it will be ignored or dismissed
 
Yes. The tax and benefits system should be contributory like it is in most other countries.

Instead of just rocking up and being given whatever you like, you should have to pay taxes here for a certain amount of time before you can use the NHS for free etc.

At the moment the UK tax payer is being asked to dish out free health care to the entire world, whilst the politicians virtue signal about other countries as the UK slowly descends into livery and chaos.

They care about everything except us

I had to pay £1800 for my wife to use NHS even with a spouse visa. This is for 12 months and i will have to renew again in December 2025. Os's statement is incorrect.
 
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No mention of Mother’s Day from two tier Keir.

What a surprise!

Sod the mothers. We should pander to the religion that treats women terribly instead!


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My mum was an incredible example for me – despite being very ill for a long time, she always put others first. Happy Mother's Day.
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FFS, the PM doesn't need to post about mother's day. His own mum is dead. I'm sure that he shows his appreciation to the mother of his children.