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tomw24 said:
I am perfectly allowed to be sceptical thank you. I don't trust any politician right now so forgive me if I don't take him at his word. I will judge him by his actions over the months to come.
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Feels like you have made your mind up, to be honest. Did your parents vote blue?
 
Just seen a clip on YouTube of the Portsmouth North result. While it is wonderful that the city now has two Labour MPs, rather worrying was the number of votes won by Reform. I also noticed the dignified manner of nearly all the candidates, including Mordaunt, except the Reform candidate who looked a thug, with a smug look on his face, busily chewing his gum in a very arrogant and distasteful way.
 
tomw24 said:
What the **** have my parents got to do with this? And I have said I will judge him by his actions, not his words so don't make assumptions that I have made my mind up please.
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Because I have never met anyone under 30 who had made their own mind up to vote Tory (with no Tory parent) but I have met many people under 30 who have decided not to vote Tory despite their parents voting that way.

Don't get upset about it. If I just insulted your Labour voting parents, I apologise.
 
greensaint said:
A mandate for Somerset independence then*.
Arthur will rise in Glastonbury brandishing his sword of truth and a flagon of cider.

* © N. Sturgeon
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I'll keep an eye out if there's talk of developing Westonzoyland into an international airport as they'll need to do that when they secede
The Ides of March said:
Mordaunt was also respectful. I think a place in the HoL is next for her!!!
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You spelt Hell wrong
 
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What this election result has proved is that the left leaning vote (which is generally the majority) has finally wised up and joined together to vote tactically to defeat the right parties.
Over 400 seats for Labour and record seats for the LDs and Greens is stunning and must be worrying for the Tories for the future of their party.
 
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Saints_Alive said:
What this election result has proved is that the left leaning vote (which is generally the majority) has finally wised up and joined together to vote tactically to defeat the right parties.
Over 400 seats for Labour and record seats for the LDs and Greens is stunning and must be worrying for the Tories for the future of their party.
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And the right has finally succumbed to the factionalism and infighting that used to plague the left
 
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Didn't they succumb to that with the Brexit vote?
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Wish they had - but the 80 seat Boris majority suggests otherwise. They would have done if the Brexit party had stood properly. Although as this result suggests - that would quite likely have resulted in a corbyn government of some kind or a hung parliament. Farage might feel slightly vindicated now. Unless he truly believes there is a form of Brexit that could have worked. Which I am not sure he really does. He just needs to keep the grift going
 
Gregm1988 said:
Wish they had - but the 80 seat Boris majority suggests otherwise. They would have done if the Brexit party had stood properly. Although as this result suggests - that would quite likely have resulted in a corbyn government of some kind or a hung parliament. Farage might feel slightly vindicated now. Unless he truly believes there is a form of Brexit that could have worked. Which I am not sure he really does. He just needs to keep the grift going
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No, I meant it was the right of the party kicking off which led to the vote.
 
Does anyone know what the theoretical minimum number of MPs needed to form an effective opposition in terms of filling the shadow roles?

I ask because there are commentators out there still floating this idea of farage joining the Tories and standing to be their leader. But surely there are at least some of the current conservatives who would not want to be in a farage lead party ?
 
I think Labour's shadow cabinet was about 30, and then there were dozens more spokespeople. No idea how many you NEED though.

But I can't see Farage joining the Tories right now. Not sure either he or they would want it at this point. Maybe there could be a merger further down the line but even then I'm not sure and that would depend on who gets elected the next Tory leader.
 
Puck said:
I think Labour's shadow cabinet was about 30, and then there were dozens more spokespeople. No idea how many you NEED though.

But I can't see Farage joining the Tories right now. Not sure either he or they would want it at this point. Maybe there could be a merger further down the line but even then I'm not sure and that would depend on who gets elected the next Tory leader.
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I don’t think it’s something he wants at this point either

There was someone else suggesting that they didn’t think the next Tory leader lasts to whole of this parliament. So maybe then if at all
 
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