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Fair enough. I understand your viewpoint, and your worries about your wife and I guess children. I don’t think Muslims or Jews should be discriminated against. I do think religion is a load of hogwash though!
Haha, I understand other people’s too. We have lost the art of healthy debate because we are so polarised and intolerant of alternative views on matters such as these. Social media is a terrible echo chamber for already irrational people!
Family safety trumps everything, as you say. You see what just happened to a 12 year old girl in France and it’s extremely worrying.
Life is full of evils, but far more that is good. I feel sorry for anyone who suffers and there is never justification for hurting someone else. Christians and Muslims sadly have expansion written into their holy books. It is their duty to convert others. Too many people still think this justifies murder and rape and violence.
Anybody know what a Physician Associate is?
In short it is someone who trains for 2 years who might be used to fill a gap in the NHS, substituting for a fully qualified physician who undergoes 7 years of training.
Bradford District has already been pulled up for display a poster with a picture of a physician associate, but without using the word associate.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...i8N9uk2gEVfTVmR4jc_aem_2oFVg0cJeHyqT8pVAuWBnA
In short it is someone who trains for 2 years who might be used to fill a gap in the NHS, substituting for a fully qualified physician who undergoes 7 years of training.
Bradford District has already been pulled up for display a poster with a picture of a physician associate, but without using the word associate.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...i8N9uk2gEVfTVmR4jc_aem_2oFVg0cJeHyqT8pVAuWBnA
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Brilliant article from Jeremy clarkson.
I agree with every word
I never said I wasn't uncomfortable with that, the World Cup there highlighted the explanation, nor some of the issues with Saudi Arabia.
Totally get that. My point is just that people mention the Israel lobby all the time but not the others which are far better funded.
I’m obviously not saying that people who don’t criticise those other lobbies think those countries are perfect but there seems to be extra derision for the Israeli lobby which does fit historic tropes.
I mean how much lobbying do we think was required for the Newcastle deal to go through? We saw it within Europe for Qatar to win the World Cup. We see it now on university campuses too.
Blair refused to sanction the motion to put before the house. Cameron didn't.....just saying
Blair converted to catholicism just after leaving office. Delayed doing that while in the job. He went as far as "civil partnerships" but refused to go as far as gay marriage. He had been cornered into putting a bill forward in 2004 but then jumped at the chance to delay it when the DUP asked him to delay because "they wanted to vote on it." So he delayedd it for 6 DUP Mps that were against the bill.....so they could vote on it! I doubt they would have made any difference to the result. in 2004 with Labour numbers it would have sailed through!
He didn't return to it in his parliament. It was voted through 3 years into Cameron's parliament 9 years after Blair had delayed the vote.
Maybe she is trying to get back in favour with Labour after Corbyn sacked her for stating facts about her own constituency and the Rotherham scandal.
Most Labour supporters would agree with you, but compared to joining the USA in an illegal war which led to countless thousands of deaths and which led to the formation of ISIS, that isn’t the worst thing Blair did in office.
I think the problem is the same as the other side. Friends of Palestine? or friends of Hamas? Similar scenario of anti-Semite? or Anti-zionist. Fine lines between them that are often crossed as seen by the messaging on recent placards.
I think the Palestine state part is fine but.....it all depends really on whether that accepts Hamas ruling? You can't really support the latter as a government when you have prescribed them as a terrorist organisation unless we want to return back 50+ years and support the tyrant that keeps things quiet for the rest of the world like we all used to do.
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Brilliant article from Jeremy clarkson.
I agree with every word
Labour used to know what working class was. Reminds me of the documentary John Prescott did talking to different demographics around his constituency. When he was asking about how hard the struggle was for working class single mums, the girl he asked replied. "I'm not working class....I don't work."
On the farmer's standpoint I'm a bit mixed there. If they are one of the farmer's that are struggling to get by, working all the hours of the day then I have sympathies but if they are one of the modern farm manager types, that moan abouut not getting payments for not doing farming on a third of their land and pulling in cheap migrant labour because they kicked the UK work force off the job in 2004/5 I have no sympathy.
Also hard to have that much sympathy on the inheritance tax issue when they are sitting on land worth many many millions. However I would question whether they have to pay inheritance tax on something which is in reality an asset of the business and shouldn't really be a personal property, more a business property thus not being "inherited" as such.
I am voting Labour. Not Blair. And Labour MPs made Gay Marriage happen. Tories on their own voted it down.Blair refused to sanction the motion to put before the house. Cameron didn't.....just saying
Just saying.
Actually the US has killed over 1,000,000 people in Afghanistan and the middle East since September 11th. Add on to that half a million non-combatants. Every time one of these “islamic types” kills a thousand of us, we kill a million of them.
The civilised west.
You seem to hate your own country so much. Why don’t you move to the Middle East?
I think being anti Zionist is usually antisemitic. Very hard to hate the idea of Jewish people having one tiny country in the world without having a problem with Jews. I think a fairer comparison for you to have made would have been antisemitism vs criticism of the Israeli government. But I do take your point