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When we think of those that died in the First World War, were they fighting for the country or for the purpose of preserving the societal status quo.with the hierarchy still quaffing champagne and partying while young men from the labouring classes were slaughtered unnecessarily on the battlefield?.

I'm not certain that's entirely accurate. A generation of young upper-class boys were also slaughtered in the First World War, as junior officers (drawn disproportionately from.'good' schools) suffered truly catastrophic casualty rates.

Vin
 
Interesting move from Rishi to bring Call me Dave back to front line politics following 7 years in the shadows.

Not sure does anything other than highlight the complete lack of talent within the Tory ranks. Or maybe it shows there at literally none left willing to associate with the complete mess that is the current cabinet.

Either way this will no doubt bring on the next chapter in the ongoing Tory civil war. The right wing factions will no doubt be backing Bravermans bid to be the next leader, which one can only imagine will be as successful as the IDS regime when they last lurched that far from the centre.
 
So presumably, because Braverman has been removed from her cabinet post she will now be “entitled” to a severance payment equal to 25% of her salary iirc.
I was hoping when the sack was mentioned that it was a heavy duty canvas sack stuffed full with Braverman and some bricks, suitably sealed at the top and lobbed off the centre of Westminster bridge but alas not.
Would have been cheaper as you don’t qualify for the severance pay if you leave a cabinet post as a result of dying.
Bring on the next clown, Dodgy Dipstick Dave.

What a grim post to share and says more about you than it does about Braverman.
 
Interesting move from Rishi to bring Call me Dave back to front line politics following 7 years in the shadows.

Not sure does anything other than highlight the complete lack of talent within the Tory ranks. Or maybe it shows there at literally none left willing to associate with the complete mess that is the current cabinet.

Either way this will no doubt bring on the next chapter in the ongoing Tory civil war. The right wing factions will no doubt be backing Bravermans bid to be the next leader, which one can only imagine will be as successful as the IDS regime when they last lurched that far from the centre.

On the one hand its clever because it will be a distraction in the midst of a **** week for the Tories.

On the other hand Cameron is as popular as a bucket of cold sick to most of the country, he could bolster them a bit in the 'blue wall' though, but I think (hope) the impact will be negligible.
 
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It is a minor obsession of mine, when I see a war memorial in a village or small town, to scan through the names and look for repeated surnames. It's amazing how often you see it and it's deeply sobering to think of families who lost several young boys and men in the same war.

Vin


I came across a war memorial in a street of terraced houses in Bethnal Green, East London, when I was down that way for a job interview. Dozens if not hundreds of names of men who died in the 14-18 war, probably around fifty from WWII. As I was looking at it, a chap came up to talk to me, who turned out to be responsible for maintaining the memorial. He explained to me that those weren't the names of all the fallen from Bethnal Green - these men all came from that one street.
 
I came across a war memorial in a street of terraced houses in Bethnal Green, East London, when I was down that way for a job interview. Dozens if not hundreds of names of men who died in the 14-18 war, probably around fifty from WWII. As I was looking at it, a chap came up to talk to me, who turned out to be responsible for maintaining the memorial. He explained to me that those weren't the names of all the fallen from Bethnal Green - these men all came from that one street.
There’s a song by Mike Harding that deals with the tragedy of the Pals Battalions, boys who grew up together, went off to war together, and died together. His song is about Accrington but it’s true of so many places around the country:
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I came across a war memorial in a street of terraced houses in Bethnal Green, East London, when I was down that way for a job interview. Dozens if not hundreds of names of men who died in the 14-18 war, probably around fifty from WWII. As I was looking at it, a chap came up to talk to me, who turned out to be responsible for maintaining the memorial. He explained to me that those weren't the names of all the fallen from Bethnal Green - these men all came from that one street.
Bloody hell :(
 
David Cameron - the man that gave us Baroness Mone. Good job she`s squeaky clean then.
As I understand it he is no longer an MP and cannot be questioned or speak in the House of Commons, just the Lords, so what’s the point.
So we now have an unelected Prime Minister and an unelected Foreign Secretary.
Democracy at it’s finest.
 
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Who needs democracy when you've got the Old Boy's network?
How ****ing good are these lyrics?
Sup up your beer and collect your ***s
There's a row going on down near slough
Get out your mat and pray to the west
I'll get out mine and pray for myself
Thought you were smart when you took them on
But you didn't take a peep in their artillery room
All that rugby puts hairs on your chest
What chance have you got against a tie and a crest?
Hello-hooray, what a nice day, for the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Hello-hooray, I hope rain stops play, with the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Thought you were clever when you lit the fuse
Tore down the house of commons in your brand new shoes
Compose a revolutionary symphony
Then went to bed with a charming young thing
Hello-hooray, cheers then mate, its the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Hello-hooray, an extremist scrape, with the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
What a catalyst you turned out to be
Loaded the guns then you run off home for your tea
Left me standing, like a guilty schoolboy
What a catalyst you turned out to be
Loaded the guns then you run off home for your tea
Left me standing, like a naughty schoolboy
We came out of it naturally the worst
Beaten and bloody and I was sick down my shirt
We were no match for their untamed wit
Though some of the lads said they'll be back next week
Hello-hooray, there's a price to pay, to the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Hello-hooray, I'd prefer the plague, to the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Hello-hooray, there's a price to pay, to the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Hello-hooray, I'd prefer the plague, to the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Eton rifles, Eton rifles
 
Bit rich coming from someone who seems to be in favour of genocide.
Lucky I don’t give a **** about your opinions.

Absolutely no need for this attitude or post. I feel this is a very unfair thing to post, and potentially libellous.

Luckily you don’t give a **** about my opinions either, but I don’t understand why you would take this attitude, and suggest this - absolutely despicable.

Really hoping Joey is a solicitor <whistle>
 
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How ****ing good are these lyrics?
Sup up your beer and collect your ***s
There's a row going on down near slough
Get out your mat and pray to the west
I'll get out mine and pray for myself
Thought you were smart when you took them on
But you didn't take a peep in their artillery room
All that rugby puts hairs on your chest
What chance have you got against a tie and a crest?
Hello-hooray, what a nice day, for the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Hello-hooray, I hope rain stops play, with the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Thought you were clever when you lit the fuse
Tore down the house of commons in your brand new shoes
Compose a revolutionary symphony
Then went to bed with a charming young thing
Hello-hooray, cheers then mate, its the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Hello-hooray, an extremist scrape, with the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
What a catalyst you turned out to be
Loaded the guns then you run off home for your tea
Left me standing, like a guilty schoolboy
What a catalyst you turned out to be
Loaded the guns then you run off home for your tea
Left me standing, like a naughty schoolboy
We came out of it naturally the worst
Beaten and bloody and I was sick down my shirt
We were no match for their untamed wit
Though some of the lads said they'll be back next week
Hello-hooray, there's a price to pay, to the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Hello-hooray, I'd prefer the plague, to the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Hello-hooray, there's a price to pay, to the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Hello-hooray, I'd prefer the plague, to the Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Eton rifles, Eton rifles
Released just a few months into Thatcher’s reign and even more relevant today.

Eerily prophetic.