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You could at least try to make it seem like you thought of this by yourself. You'll be signing the bottom of your posts Jab next.
Not angry but having to explain things to idiots all the time becomes a bit tiresome.
Yes, something not quite right about this incident. He apparently served in the Signals in Northern Ireland, yet in one photo he appears to be wearing a parachute regiment beret.
"Rishi Sunak is facing calls to sack Suella Braverman today after No10 dramatically confirmed it did not sign off a bombshell article accusing police of 'playing favourites' by allowing a pro-Gaza march on Armistice Day."
"Downing Street has launched a probe after the Home Secretary suggested Scotland Yard commissioner Mark Rowley would be tougher if the protests were in a different cause."
"In a piece for the The Times, she also risked enraging the DUP by comparing the situation to protestant marches in Northern Ireland, saying the Gaza ceasefire demo included 'Islamists' who were 'asserting primacy' and could be linked to terrorism."
Not from the woke lefty Guardian it's the mail getting the boot in.
What are you referring to? It's a Jab original, are you on the wrong post?
"Downing Street has launched a probe after the Home Secretary suggested Scotland Yard commissioner Mark Rowley would be tougher if the protests were in a different cause."
"In a piece for the The Times, she also risked enraging the DUP by comparing the situation to protestant marches in Northern Ireland, saying the Gaza ceasefire demo included 'Islamists' who were 'asserting primacy' and could be linked to terrorism."
Not from the woke lefty Guardian it's the mail getting the boot in.
What are you referring to? It's a Jab original, are you on the wrong post?
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That's weird IOAG. As I see it Archers responded to you insofar as he disagreed with your post and cited that he had relatives with war service who he felt would not agree with you.
You replied to Archers and perpetuated the service history of relatives to support your opinion.
I replied essentially supporting Ian and Archers and included, in context, the service history of my family. In a way my recollections demonstrate a form of personal "rememberance" which I thought was relevant to the discussion and something which you may sympathise with. You then made a cheap and snide comment about "competition to see who had the most relatives serve in WW2." That wasn't the purpose of my post and it's disingenuous for you to suggest it was.
I normally attend Remembrance parades but last year our local parade was, I felt, highjacked by our local church with a protracted mawkish religious service. It was well attended but there was a diminished number of actual service vets there. Total respect to those who attend but this year I chose to remember privately.
So you've gone back and deleted your reply.
So you were commenting on the wrong post, that does make you look a bit less than the intellectual power house you claim to be.
I never thought they'd get anywhere in NI, but they did
I hope that this pushes the diplomacy into a more genuine space, Hamas & Netanyahu don't believe in a diplomatic solution and the US needs to push Israel rather than offer what has often been blind support
You can't pause without Hamas trying to gain from that but you have to find a way to minimise civilian casualties which it seems might actually be happening now
I’m surprised you’re prepared to waste your time lecturing all the idiots on here
Maybe you need to find somewhere more intellectually challenging
For what my opinion is worth, I think the better response from Israel (had it had a stronger leader) would have been to stop the immediate attacks and isolate Gaza but exact no quick revenge. Then they might have said "we're going to deal with this; not today, not tomorrow but soon. You have my sincere promise that those responsible will be dealt with in due course but, at the moment, a reaction will simply play into the hands of Hamas. Patience. Justice will be served. If it's not, kick me out of office."
It would have been a far more rational course of action that might have reaped far bigger rewards long-term - the response would have been reasoned and properly planned. Unfortunately, a weak PM needed to act immediately.
Vin
It would have been a far more rational course of action that might have reaped far bigger rewards long-term - the response would have been reasoned and properly planned. Unfortunately, a weak PM needed to act immediately.
Vin
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garysfc
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Yep, I also never thought they’d find a NI solution & some might say they haven’t but the day to day atrocities have ceased. Ok, this is next level but war, terrorism won’t finale to an amicable solution, even if your the boss. Some form of negotiation, compromise, consultation is required and they were nearer in the past than wherever “we” are now. The USA are leaders in this conflict & need to help not antagonise.
Led by donkeys? No, donkeys are smart in comparison.
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Ah yes, the British police. Never have they lied before in order to cover up potentially damaging political optics.
Never would they try and stifle a story in order to keep up the appearance that multi-culturalism is alive and working well.
Are the likes of Johnson et al protected from prosecution or is there any chance of them being prosecuted for their actions?
If not in a criminal court in a civil court?
I would love to see so many of them destroyed.
This shows how out of touch liberal lefty’s are with reality.
On no planet would any government countenance the butchering of their citizens in this way. It would show immense weakness even if it was a previously strong government.
Add to that the countless missile attacks launched at the Israeli capital and all the citizens would be questioning the governments ability to govern.
Apply the same logic to 9/11 and think how America would have reacted if Bush said/did nothing.
This is actually mind blowing.
I will never trust a politician or “medical expert” ever again, from any party. They are all charlatans and liars with far too much power over our lives
See, I don’t disagree as such, but wondered how much Iran, Lebanon etc. were waiting to see the reaction, as in playing right into their hands by launching an attack.
The other part I would take issue with the original post, is that Israel dint launch an immediate response to the Hamas attacked, I thought they waiting and weighed up options, likely speaking to the US and other nations etc. So not like it was a knee jerk, tit for tat reaction. I wondered had some of Vin’s franchises been destroyed in a Hamas attack in the UK, if the right thing was to wait an indefinite period, making Hamas scared daily as to when retribution may be come.
Shiver me timbers.
Can but hope charges can be brought. There's the PPE corruption to be investigated. That awful Mone women and family already admitting what they'd previously denied. More to come from the VIP lane scandal.
Having got the weekend beer in the fridge and a few other chores done I googled and found this:-
Q. Could the outcome of the inquiry lead to criminal prosecution?
A. An Inquiry cannot determine either criminal or civil liability, so the answer on that level is no. The full answer is much more complicated. The Inquiry should lay bare all of the evidence, at that point conclusions can be reached that can in turn inform other processes. The police and the prosecuting authorities will be watching the Inquiry very closely. The outcome of an Inquiry often leads to a matter of law being considered by prosecuting authorities. In the Hillsborough Inquiry, for instance, the jury concluded that the deceased had been unlawfully killed. That conclusion was a catalyst for criminal prosecutions. There were also civil proceedings where people managed to gain compensation. However, it's important to understand that each of those were separate processes to the initial Inquiry.
There's more here. https://www.jacksonlees.co.uk/broud...uiry-faqs/covid-inquiry-criminal-charges-faqs
I think having their bollocks squeezed in a vice is far to painless given the deaths caused by what I believe to be criminal negligence.
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They didn't mount an immediate response because they weren't able to, the strategy and military hardware wasn't in place. Just as they weren't prepared for the attack even with warnings. A level of incompetance recognised throughout Israeli society.