Off Topic Politics Thread

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Osvaldorama said:
There has only been one president or PM in my lifetime that has ever given a speech talking about peace and togetherness like that. Even if some of it is for selfish reasons.

He is the ONLY ONE. And it was covered nowhere and effectively buried.

Like I said, it isn’t a coincidence that Biden was the establishment figurehead and multiple wars are now happening under his leadership. It was all planned. It was going to happen under Hilary but trump won and caught them all by surprise
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"It was all planned" A conspiracy for wars and atrocities thwarted by Trump? Your head is in a dark and musty place.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/donald-trump-russia-nuclear-submarines.
Some ****ing pacifist.
"Trump: If I Was President I’d Threaten to Drop a Nuclear Bomb on Russia
He’s a real tactical genius, isn’t he, folks?"
 
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Osvaldorama said:
To be honest I don’t actually want to accuse corbyn too much as I also do believe he is pro-peace and not part of the establishment. Although I vehemently disagree with all of his politics and think socialism is broadly evil, I think his heart is in the right place.

However:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/docum...tism-by-corbyn-among-thousands-in-labour/amp/
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I've read that before. Nothing in there holds much water. No quotes. And yeah, he just wants peace.
 
StJabbo1 said:
"It was all planned" A conspiracy for wars and atrocities thwarted by Trump? Your head is in a dark and musty place.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/donald-trump-russia-nuclear-submarines.
Some ****ing pacifist.
"Trump: If I Was President I’d Threaten to Drop a Nuclear Bomb on Russia
He’s a real tactical genius, isn’t he, folks?"
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Yeah a real tactical genius...<doh>

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/07/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-jets-chinese
 
StJabbo1 said:
"It was all planned" A conspiracy for wars and atrocities thwarted by Trump? Your head is in a dark and musty place.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/donald-trump-russia-nuclear-submarines.
Some ****ing pacifist.
"Trump: If I Was President I’d Threaten to Drop a Nuclear Bomb on Russia
He’s a real tactical genius, isn’t he, folks?"
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Trump holding the keys to the nukes is the scariest thing for the world. He is a loose cannon and is only getting worse.
 
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MIsaints said:
Trump holding the keys to the nukes is the scariest thing for the world. He is a loose cannon and is only getting worse.
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It wouldn't do to have a delusional psychotic with his finger on the nuclear trigger.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/07/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-jets-chinese
"In a speech to Republican donors in New Orleans, Donald Trump said the US should put the Chinese flag on F-22 jets and “bomb the **** out of Russia” in retribution for its invasion of Ukraine.
The Washington Post reported the remarks, which were made on Saturday night. (05-03-2022)
To laughter, the paper said, the former president said: “And then we say, ‘China did it, we didn’t do it, China did it,’ and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch.”
According to the Post, Trump also called Nato a “paper tiger”, said the US military had won “skirmishes” against Russian troops while he was president, and claimed to have been tougher on Vladimir Putin than any other US leader.
Trump has faced severe criticism for praising the Russian leader since the invasion began. He has also said the invasion was wrong."

"Much of the rest of the speech, the paper said, was devoted to Trump’s lie that his defeat by Biden was caused by electoral fraud.
Trump attacked two Republicans who have rejected the lie: the Senate minority leader, Mitch McConnell, whom Trump called “stupid, corrupt”, and his own former vice-president, Mike Pence, who presided over certification of the electoral results after the deadly riot at the US Capitol on 6 January 2021."

"The Post reported that “several” people said Trump talked too long and “sounded like he was rambling more in the last 30 minutes”.
 
Sleepy Joe & his team just posted a photo on Instagram and doxxed the whole delta force.

The incompetence of his administration is staggering
 
I'll be honest, I switched my mind off after the words "Sleepy Joe" as I know that is Fox News talking. Normally means BS too. That said from the other side, CNN is as bad. Are there any neutral US outlets?
 
Sunak referred to as Dr Death by the person who has now replaced Sir Patrick Vallance as Chief Scientific Adviser.

WHATSAPP's revealed to the Covid Inquiry showed how Rishi Sunak was branded “Dr Death” by a top Government scientist after launching his Eat Out to Help Out scheme.
Dame Angela McLean, then-Deputy Chief Scientific Adviser and Chief Scientific Adviser for the Ministry of Defence, referred to Mr Sunak as “Dr Death the Chancellor” in an exchange on September 20, 2020.
The WhatsApp messages were shown as part of evidence from epidemiologist Prof John Edmunds.
Asked if he recalled whether Dame Angela was referring to Eat Out to Help Out, Prof Edmunds said: “It was so long ago I don’t know, but it could well be.”
Mr Sunak had launched his scheme, the month before, in August 2020, when he was Boris Johnson’s Chancellor.
Research has since suggested that the scheme caused a “significant” rise in Covid cases over that summer.
Dame Angela took over from Sir Patrick Vallance as the Chief Scientific Adviser in April this year.
Ms Fulop said: “When our current Chief Scientific Adviser has referred to our Prime Minister as ‘Dr Death’, how can any of us have faith in our Government if another pandemic strikes?”
A Liberal Democrat source said: “This is more evidence of the total chaos at the heart of this government during the pandemic. Sunak has gone from Dishy Rishi to Dr Death.”
In the WhatsApp exchange, Dame Angela also referred to another pandemic planning official as a “f***wit”.
Asked who that was, Prof Edmunds said: “I’m pretty sure it’s the next witness.” The next witness was Prof Carl Heneghan, a member of the Government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies.
The inquiry heard earlier this month that Mr Sunak’s Eat Out to Help Out scheme “encouraged social mixing and confused public health messaging”. The BMA said the Government had failed to “provide clear, consistent and visible public health messaging”.
 
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I think it was a good speech. But one speech isn’t enough. By recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel he helped stir up this current crisis. The speech was seen by many as an attempt to build friendship with wealthy Saudi Arabia at the expense of Iran. Iran and Saudi are both huge funders of terrorism, I believe?

I won’t criticise that speech. Was a good message. But I wish an American leader would do more than grandstand and actually start up a real process for peace.
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It’s all in the context mate
Like you I thought, what’s this? This seems far too sensible for Trump?

Context?

Its actually the Arab ISLAMIC American Summit

It is a one sided polemic, not an appeal for peace

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...t-trumps-speech-arab-islamic-american-summit/

We are all being trolled!
 
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