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thereisonlyoneno7 said:
I found this an interesting read on Biden's first few months.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56903805

There are a few things he is doing (or thinking of doing) that go against my personal political beliefs, but isn't it nice to have a decent human being in charge of the USA once again?
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Yes, definitely. Unlike this septic country ..... 40% of people (apparently) still think that Blojo is doing a decent job <doh><doh><doh>
 
After all the ****e Arlene Foster has been involved with, it was failure to protect gay conversion therapy that gets her hoofed from the DUP.

The DUP and SF rodents need hoofing to the dustbins of history.

Allegedly they want someone more hardline...
 
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Shandy_top_89 said:
After all the ****e Arlene Foster has been involved with, it was failure to protect gay conversion therapy that gets her hoofed from the DUP.

The DUP and SF rodents need hoofing to the dustbins of history.

Allegedly they want someone more hardline...
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The aforesaid Donald Trump is looking for a job. They need someone who can understand nuance in debate. Can't think of anyone better than big Don.
 
saintrichie123 said:
I think he was so angry because he has been caught out.
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Boris has not only be caught out but Starmer has done his job extremely effectively for once and has him cornered with the fact that he has potentially engineered him lying before Parliament from where there would be no comeback. He questioning in PMQs was expert. I felt Starmer's tactics were far more forensic that Blackford's who is a bit of an uncultured thug who is fortunate to belong to the SNP who are a slick, modern politic force unlikely to become embroiled in the same kind of pitfalls.After yesterday, I felt that this has changed from being a mere bit of scandal to something that will ultimately bring him down. I believe that the enquiry in to the government's handling of Covid is taking place in a few week's time and I would expect that this will reveal allegations which will prove to be far more damaging than the refurbishing of a flat. I do not envisage Boris being in power in six months time. He will have done well to get through the summer and I think he will be encouraged to resign. Enough damage might have already have been done to ensure that the local election results are catastrophic enough for bring about Boris's resignation even more rapidly. There is no way that I can see him surviving. I also have a suspicion that the police will be involved at some point.
 
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Ian Thumwood said:
Boris has not only be caught out but Starmer has done his job extremely effectively for once and has him cornered with the fact that he has potentially engineered him lying before Parliament from where there would be no comeback. He questioning in PMQs was expert. I felt Starmer's tactics were far more forensic that Blackford's who is a bit of an uncultured thug who is fortunate to belong to the SNP who are a slick, modern politic force unlikely to become embroiled in the same kind of pitfalls.After yesterday, I felt that this has changed from being a mere bit of scandal to something that will ultimately bring him down. I believe that the enquiry in to the government's handling of Covid is taking place in a few week's time and I would expect that this will reveal allegations which will prove to be far more damaging than the refurbishing of a flat. I do not envisage Boris being in power in six months time. He will have done well to get through the summer and I think he will be encouraged to resign. Enough damage might have already have been done to ensure that the local election results are catastrophic enough for bring about Boris's resignation even more rapidly. There is no way that I can see him surviving. I also have a suspicion that the police will be involved at some point.
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I think the way the Tory press is reacting to this indicates that there is movement within the party to remove him. Otherwise they would just ignore the story and as usual it would be ‘Boris considers the matter closed’.

But we maybe shouldn’t be entirely celebrating his downfall just yet, it’s worth remembering that outside of Brexit Johnson is one of the more liberal Tories and we should probably be concerned that whoever follows will likely be even worse.

I have intense dislike for him, but at least he has taken Covid somewhat seriously (at least since he nearly got killed by it). There are plenty in that party who would have literally seen the bodies pile even higher. Just an example of the kind of things that might get worse if for example Michael Gove becomes PM.

The best outcome imo is for Johnson to remain until the next election and him be actually voted out assuming the opposition parties gain some competence in the meantime. A full nut job Tory could really cause some significant damage with a majority for three years.
 
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Shandy_top_89 said:
I think the way the Tory press is reacting to this indicates that there is movement within the party to remove him. Otherwise they would just ignore the story and as usual it would be ‘Boris considers the matter closed’.

But we maybe shouldn’t be entirely celebrating his downfall just yet, it’s worth remembering that outside of Brexit Johnson is one of the more liberal Tories and we should probably be concerned that whoever follows will likely be even worse.

I have intense dislike for him, but at least he has taken Covid somewhat seriously (at least since he nearly got killed by it). There are plenty in that party who would have literally seen the bodies pile even higher. Just an example of the kind of things that might get worse if for example Michael Gove becomes PM.

The best outcome imo is for Johnson to remain until the next election and him be actually voted out assuming the opposition parties gain some competence in the meantime. A full nut job Tory could really cause some significant damage with a majority for three years.
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Indeed. I am an advocate of “ Be careful what you wish for”
 
Latest scandal among many is that Boris and his chums are carrying out government business by messaging each other on Signal, WhatsApp, and so on, messages which disappear and are not therefore kept as a permanent record as the law requires. There is a campaign to expose this in the courts, which you can support by clicking this link:

https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/s...AJpFMY8_sDtkWfePH9mg2xZo5tcuMjZ4-PPVlg7eHaKYo
 
Hi Chilcs

Good Law Project is today able to reveal the names of four more companies awarded contracts through the VIP lane: Clandeboye Agencies, P14 Medical, Luxe Lifestyle and Meller Designs.

These four are in addition to Ayanda, which enjoyed a £252m deal negotiated by Liz Truss adviser Andrew Mills. And Pestfix which won approximately £350m in contracts despite being described by Government as a company “which specialises in pest control products, that was dormant in 2018” (see page 73). There remain a further 41 firms yet to be revealed.

Good Law Project can also reveal that of the nine contracts the subject of the judicial review – one with Ayanda, two with Clandeboye and six with Pestfix – five or possibly six of them have failed in the sense that some or all of the PPE provided under them has proved unfit for its intended purpose (see page 2). Hundreds and hundreds of millions of pounds – spent with these three suppliers alone – have been wasted. It is inconceivable that this is the only waste. Moreover, the documents disclose that Pestfix and Matt Hancock are “in legal dispute” (see page 176).

In relation to Ayanda, civil servants were afraid of losing the contract with Ayanda because Andrew Mills “has close ties to DIT so wouldn’t be a good outcome” (see page 188), were concerned that Andrew Mills “is using previous relationships and making noise that we are not responsive” (page 190), and “Andrew comes through as highly backed as he sits on the board for DIT – so I don’t want things being escalated” (page 191).

The High Court said the Government should carry out additional searches for:

  1. texts and WhatsApp messages for some selected civil servants; and
  2. instructions, directions and decisions by Ministers in respect of the establishment, selection and criteria of the VIP lane.
It also said that the Government should supply details of the advice given by Emily Lawson in relation to FFP2 facemasks.

With reference to our other applications, the Government either has now supplied or agreed to supply the information we sought, or our application for that information was rejected by the Court.

The Government was ordered to pay our costs of the application.

Thank you,

Jo Maugham
Director of Good Law Project
 
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