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Was that a stunt.by.Johnson?And BJ probably owes his life to part of Clement Attlee's legacy too...
So Boris Johnson turned up for the one day a week he actually works today and managed to appear as a confused, bewildered, unknowing and as unsure of what is going on as ever. This man really has to go.
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I don’t think anyone should be surprised.
The Tories are a rule unto themselves. It’s just a shame that their voters are willing to accept their behaviour as the norm, and refuse to hold them to account.
I don’t think the majority of people realise that corruption like this exists here.
My old man is a dyed in the wool Conservative and I’ve suggested to him before that we have a rapidly increasing issue, he just says ‘No, that doesn’t happen in the UK’.
Pretty solid example of it there, Jenrick should be under Police investigation for that.
Let's not be too unkind to Pfeffel. He clearly considered that his ' Get Brexit Done' mantra would suffice. And before the arrival of Covid it would most likely have got him by. But if Covid has done anything it has exposed his inability to cope. His HoC performances have been woeful, and again he's been unlucky. Corbyn's questions about Mrs.Huggins wheelie bin going AWOL and the like really was meat and drink to him. I can only imagine his despair when he came up against Starmer and realised that he was going to get turned inside out on a regular basis. Starmer looks harmless enough but he has an incisive mind that will continue to take Pfeffel apart. The latest YouGov poll puts Labour ahead. That took one day less than six months from the election.
I give spaffer the same kindness and respect he's shown to others. The mothers of his children, the collegues and management at his places of work, his fellow MPs, his constituents and the general public. He is the leading candidate for the chocolate starfish of the year/decade/century. The non elected puppeteer Cummings closing fast. Both should be challenged at every opportunity.
Don't worry about Spaffer. we wont see him again now until next Wednesday because as a Part Time Prime Minister he only works on that day.
Must watch PMQs which should be renamed Boris over the barrel, he gets spaffed all over.
Having spoken to many people today on the telephone it has become very apparent that many are totally ignoring what the government are saying as Johnson and his cabinet have become a laughing stock and have lost all credibility and authority.
I was sent the following, by a friend. I don’t know who Nick Tolhurst is, but he has spent time in the foreign office and had strong views on the time Priti Patel had secret meetings in Israel.
“Nick Tolhurst has excellent sources inside government and is normally very well-informed. So his Twitter thread analysis of the current shambles makes for interesting reading...
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“So here’s what I think is happening inside Conservative party, Telegraph/Spectator bubble right now.
Whatever their views and whether soft or hard Tory, the penny’s dropped that Johnson is now going down in history as the PM that screwed up Coronavirus and cost thousands of lives.
As realisation dawns, no one thinks he can lead Tories into the next election - but he has 4.5 years still. What to do?
Problem: if Coronavirus 2nd wave is just as bad there’s logic to letting Boris stay; otherwise his successor gets tainted too. Also no deal Brexit will be bad too.
But here’s the problem - nobody decent now wants to be associated with Johnson/Cummings disaster. See Montie’s [Conservative commentator Tim Montogomerie] NS article today. People have no fear as power slips away.
In normal times this might not be so bad - but in a pandemic + potential no deal this risks a vacuum in govt.
This I think partially explains the utter vacuum in UK govt right now.
Johnson will take the fall but ministers and challengers want a growing economy to ensure re-election. But who is actually in charge of seeing Coronavirus suppressed?
Next problem: No deal Brexiters will keep Johnson if he brings no deal.
Pro-extension/soft dealers will keep Johnson if he helps them
You see the problem?
Johnson cannot have a clear Brexit policy as he’s now too weak - which means he’s now exactly where Theresa May was.
And this is where it gets weird. The longer Johnson hides his Brexit “policy” the longer he survives. Like May it’s his only chance now.
So no one will know even in October. Then in November he has to pull something out the hat.
And at that moment all hell breaks loose.
Next problem: Who’s working now on the trade deal agreement if Boris is not trusting anyone?
Frost? Cummings?
The civil service know Boris is a gonner; nobody else knows what’s going on (this also confirmed by ministers)
So the person in charge is barely surviving and on the way out.”
“Nick Tolhurst has excellent sources inside government and is normally very well-informed. So his Twitter thread analysis of the current shambles makes for interesting reading...
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“So here’s what I think is happening inside Conservative party, Telegraph/Spectator bubble right now.
Whatever their views and whether soft or hard Tory, the penny’s dropped that Johnson is now going down in history as the PM that screwed up Coronavirus and cost thousands of lives.
As realisation dawns, no one thinks he can lead Tories into the next election - but he has 4.5 years still. What to do?
Problem: if Coronavirus 2nd wave is just as bad there’s logic to letting Boris stay; otherwise his successor gets tainted too. Also no deal Brexit will be bad too.
But here’s the problem - nobody decent now wants to be associated with Johnson/Cummings disaster. See Montie’s [Conservative commentator Tim Montogomerie] NS article today. People have no fear as power slips away.
In normal times this might not be so bad - but in a pandemic + potential no deal this risks a vacuum in govt.
This I think partially explains the utter vacuum in UK govt right now.
Johnson will take the fall but ministers and challengers want a growing economy to ensure re-election. But who is actually in charge of seeing Coronavirus suppressed?
Next problem: No deal Brexiters will keep Johnson if he brings no deal.
Pro-extension/soft dealers will keep Johnson if he helps them
You see the problem?
Johnson cannot have a clear Brexit policy as he’s now too weak - which means he’s now exactly where Theresa May was.
And this is where it gets weird. The longer Johnson hides his Brexit “policy” the longer he survives. Like May it’s his only chance now.
So no one will know even in October. Then in November he has to pull something out the hat.
And at that moment all hell breaks loose.
Next problem: Who’s working now on the trade deal agreement if Boris is not trusting anyone?
Frost? Cummings?
The civil service know Boris is a gonner; nobody else knows what’s going on (this also confirmed by ministers)
So the person in charge is barely surviving and on the way out.”
Dominic Cummings is a ****.
"Ruth May England's chief nurse was dropped from a daily Downing Street briefing on the coronavirus for refusing to back Dominic Cummings"
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-from-no-10-briefing-for-not-backing-cummings
Telegraph and Mail giving the story some air to.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...icer-dropped-downing-street-briefing-dominic/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ess-conference-refusing-Dominic-Cummings.html[/QUOTE]
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I hear this guy is on standby for the next coronavirus briefing, with a snappy new slogan.
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