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Bit of a weird one, but it feels like with this sudden increase of borrowing to spend on public services and infrastructure, with focus on policing and science etc, and some of the tax changes at the lower end we seem to be heading into Blairite new labour territory economically. Just with really ****ty welfare reforms and a lack of care for actual people...
 
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I can see your reasoning.......but Strewth you have to accept that the virus can and is likely to play a big part? No doubt those who didn’t want to leave will feel that way. But the reality.....???
 
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It's called Keynesian Economics... Trying to stave off a recession and blame it on a virus when the underlying reason is Brexit. 'There must be someway out of here said the joker to the thief '
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It's come after 10 wasted years, when austerity has cause untold damage to the fabric of our society; but this belated recognition that the best response to a moribund economy is to invest your way out of recession, is welcome.

The last 10 years of Tory economic policy has been the equivalent of those medeaval surgeons who used to apply leeches to suck blood from sick people, in the mistaken belief that this helped remove poison.
 
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Ok I feel dirty saying it but I have just watched the Government conference.

I had no issues with anything Boris said and liked the way he actually didn't do a 'Trump' and pretend to know all the answers, but actually let the 'experts' either side of him answer.

The Government response was quite good and felt frank.

Yuk. I just said that. Yuk.
 
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thereisonlyoneno7 said:
Ok I feel dirty saying it but I have just watched the Government conference.

I had no issues with anything Boris said and liked the way he actually didn't do a 'Trump' and pretend to know all the answers, but actually let the 'experts' either side of him answer.

The Government response was quite good and felt frank.

Yuk. I just said that. Yuk.
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There has been talk of Buffoon moving closer to the centre of politics to appeal to the greater number of voters. I bit like Blair/Brown but coming from the polar opposite. The pledging of raised public spending, to drive the UK out of a possible recession, is a centrist/left of centre idea [Keynesian, as posters have written above]. Usually, Right wing Tory parties lower taxes in order to generate innovation, but most of this results in a shift in inequality towards the already rich.
 
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TheSecondStain said:
There has been talk of Buffoon moving closer to the centre of politics to appeal to the greater number of voters. I bit like Blair/Brown but coming from the polar opposite.
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I never wanted him in, but once he got in I agreed (to myself) to give him a chance - there is nothing we can do for 5 years anyway.

If there was a scale of 1-100 where 1 is I am really happy and want him & the tories in and 100 is no way, he has moved to 98 from 100 to me.

Long way to go, but Trump is still on 100 and never deviated from it.
 
thereisonlyoneno7 said:
I never wanted him in, but once he got in I agreed (to myself) to give him a chance - there is nothing we can do for 5 years anyway.

If there was a scale of 1-100 where 1 is I am really happy and want him & the tories in and 100 is no way, he has moved to 98 from 100 to me.

Long way to go, but Trump is still on 100 and never deviated from it.
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On that same scale I'll give Buffoon 90, for doing something approaching along the right lines in some areas. Trump is around 150 on the 0-100 scale. No, let's make it a cheerful round 200. The man is an idiot. And that's insulting other idiots to say that.

Unfortunately, it looks increasingly likely that he may have another term. Joe Biden is actually quite a nasty piece of work, and the USA think Communism when they hear Socialism, so the only guy with any sincerity, Bernie Sanders, may find himself overlooked again.
 
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Surely someone has to stage an intervention with Trump? Surely it's time for the people around him to sit him down and tell him how concerned they are about his mental health? And if he won't listen, can't they section him?

As for Boris, I like that he seems to be deferring to this Public Health England guy on the appropriate response to the virus. I'll give him credit for that, though I very much dislike the way he defers to Cummings on Brexit, Parliament, and the Civil Service.
 
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Archers Road said:
Surely someone has to stage an intervention with Trump? Surely it's time for the people around him to sit him down and tell him how concerned they are about his mental health? And if he won't listen, can't they section him?

As for Boris, I like that he seems to be deferring to this Public Health England guy on the appropriate response to the virus. I'll give him credit for that, though I very much dislike the way he defers to Cummings on Brexit, Parliament, and the Civil Service.
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Trump is a pawn of the Koch brothers, the NRA, etc... They like him just as he is.
 
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